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Old Thu Aug 25, 2005, 08:51am
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B1 blocks A1 knocking him out of bounds (Still on his feet), B1 follows and continues to block A1 out of bounds.

Is this legal or would you flag for Illegal Personal Contact or possibly another penalty?
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Old Thu Aug 25, 2005, 10:01am
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I don't have rules support to call this a penalty. It can't see how it can be illegal personal contact in any way. Now I would call Illegal Participation if B returned since I would consider his going out of bounds to block the A player a voluntary act. I would allow A to return with no penalty because he was blocked out of bounds and if he can finally avoid B's block he'd be (legally) returning at his first "opportunity."
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Old Thu Aug 25, 2005, 10:10am
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How far out of bounds? If it's just a foot or two (i.e. still essentially on the sideline), I've got nothing. If we've crossed the sideline to the point where there are obstacles, then I've probably got illegal personal contact under 9-4-3g (the unnecessary roughness clause).

Also, the defense/receiving team is allowed to voluntarily go OOB, so no IP flag on the B player here.
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Old Thu Aug 25, 2005, 11:22am
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Also, the defense/receiving team is allowed to voluntarily go OOB, so no IP flag on the B player here.
REPLY: B and R are allowed to go out of bounds inadvertently and return. But they're still not allowed to go OOB intentionally
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Old Fri Aug 26, 2005, 08:58am
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*blink* Right. Sad thing is I was staring right at the rule while typing. My mistake.
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Old Fri Aug 26, 2005, 07:12pm
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B1 blocks A1 knocking him out of bounds (Still on his feet), B1 follows and continues to block A1 out of bounds.

Is this legal or would you flag for Illegal Personal Contact or possibly another penalty?
A can come back in without penalty, but must attempt to come in right away.

B leaving the field on his own is a foul if he further participates, including continuing to block A.
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Old Fri Aug 26, 2005, 07:19pm
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B1 blocks A1 knocking him out of bounds (Still on his feet), B1 follows and continues to block A1 out of bounds.

Is this legal or would you flag for Illegal Personal Contact or possibly another penalty?
I don't see why you couldn't have a personal foul.
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Old Sun Aug 28, 2005, 11:54am
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B1 blocks A1 knocking him out of bounds (Still on his feet), B1 follows and continues to block A1 out of bounds.

Is this legal or would you flag for Illegal Personal Contact or possibly another penalty?
I don't see why you couldn't have a personal foul.
For simply staying with his block OOB's? If B1 were to continue aggressively blocking or drove A1 through the bench area I could see a flag dropping. But if B1 disengages right after crossing the sideline would you still flag?

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Old Wed Aug 31, 2005, 08:02am
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Would we have Illegal Part. on B if the force of the block caused both men to go OOB and then they both came back in??? or are we saying the block by B makes him go OOb intentionally?
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