stoppage of the clock - Page 4

mcrowder · #46 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 10, 2004, 08:15am

Round here, PeeWee is $40, cash. JV and under is mandatory $25, although many pay $30 and a few pay $35 (1 pays $35 for 1st game, $25 for additional games).

3 weeks of 6-games on Saturday, and I've got a new fridge!

Plus usually a chance to work on mechanics, get input from more experienced guys, and help the brand-new guys learn as well.

JRutledge · #47 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 10, 2004, 09:20am

They pay that much and more at many leagues up here. Depending on the League, guys can make well over a $100 a night or in an afternoon on a Saturday or Sunday. Usually guys work about 4 or 5 games, depending on the structure of the league. I work a league now that we get $75 for only working two games with a fraction of the time as a varsity doubleheader. This league is a bunch of Catholic schools that play on Sundays. I work with the same guys every week and we have a good time. There is a league if I wanted to up north where I could make $40-45 on Saturdays, but I work varsity football those days. And I never have to drive. This is also one of the reasons that many younger officials do not work HS ball on Saturday, because the money is larger with these kid leagues.

Peace

mcrowder · #48 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 10, 2004, 09:30am

I guess part of the difference here is that 90% of the HS games are on Fridays. Not very many on Saturday, and those that are usually pay like JV (varsity pay here is based on attendance - MOST of these Saturday games are very small schools without their own facilities that play at the "real" stadiums whenever they can get them available - but attendance is negligible).

So we work Varsity on Friday nights and Peewee on Saturdays. I'm actually disappointed when I get a Saturday varsity game - even a JV/V doubleheader - $75-80 for 4 hours of work (and often another hour and a half driving), or $240 cash for 8 hours (5-15 minute drive).

JRutledge · #49 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 10, 2004, 10:02am

The reason there are Saturday games, a lot of schools do not have lights. So they have to play in the morning/afternoon in order to have a game in the first place. Now there are more schools that are getting lights and the need for Saturday games are not as common. A lot of schools live in communities where the house owners do not want lights near their property. I have a varsity game at a school that will have lights for the first time. I even lost a Saturday game this year to a school that put in lights and moved the game to Friday.

I will admit that I really hate a lot of Pee Wee games. I even stopped doing them for a few years all together, because there were officials that did not want to call the game properly. And coaches were always trying to tell you how the rules were laid out based on some NFL game they saw. The money can be good, but with all the hassle, I would rather watch football on TV then work a league where the officials are not treated with a certain amount of respect. I also feel that many of the Pee Wee coaches are not as accountable for their actions as they are in HS sports. If I eject a coach from a game, he has to answer to the Principal and the AD for his actions. I deal with a Pee Wee Coach, the League President might make excuses for him because that is his brother. I would rather plunk hair off my head for fun.

Peace

mikesears · #50 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 10, 2004, 01:00pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
I would rather plunk hair off my head for fun.

We have those kind of leagues around here, too. I won't work them. But I have found youth leagues that are actually fun to work.

JRutledge · #51 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 10, 2004, 01:23pm

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Originally posted by mikesears
We have those kind of leagues around here, too. I won't work them. But I have found youth leagues that are actually fun to work.

I agree. But leagues are like finding a good woman. It might take you awhile to find the right one that works for you.

I right now work a league that allows me to work with a crew. Everyone on the crew have playoff experience. We used one guy last year that was brand new, but he got to work with just us all year. And it was 4 man. The only problem I have this year with the league is they will not allow us to have 4 officials. So the newer guy is not working with us. But he does have a kid playing a sport on that day so it is not tragic for him. Not sure we will work it next year. We will just have to see how this year goes.

Peace

mcrowder · #52 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 10, 2004, 02:24pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
And coaches were always trying to tell you how the rules were laid out based on some NFL game they saw.

What - you mean the high school and junior high coaches in your area don't do the same???

I see your point about accountability - that CAN be more of a factor in peewee.