Pylon Situation

[surehands]

Runner A25 dives into the pylon at the intersection of the goal line and sidelines and the ball breaks the plane of the goal line.
We gave them a touchdown. Is that correct?

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by surehands

Runner A25 dives into the pylon at the intersection of the goal line and sidelines and the ball breaks the plane of the goal line.
We gave them a touchdown. Is that correct?

NFHS: 1-2-4: ".....When properly placed, the goal line pylon is OOB at the intersection of the sideline and goal line extended." TD if the ball, in player possession, breaks the plane of the goal prior to the pylon being touched.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by surehands

Runner A25 dives into the pylon at the intersection of the goal line and sidelines and the ball breaks the plane of the goal line.
We gave them a touchdown. Is that correct?

By that description -- "dives...and the ball breaks the plane" -- I could imagine a rare situation in which, say, his helmet hits the pylon before the ball reaches the plane of the goal line, in which case it would be spotted in the field of play. But most ways I'd imagine it, the ball would break the plane first, in which case touchdown.

Remember that when the ball is being carried, it's not dead by virtue of the carrier's being out of bounds until it or the carrier actually touches something out of bounds. So the ball could cross the plane of the sideline from the field of play and still be live. The out-of-bounds point is irrelevant if the ball never gets spotted, because a touchdown occurs first.

[JRutledge]

You said dives. So if airborne, he must cross the goal line inbounds or on the inbounds side of the pylon in order to be considered in the end zone.

If he is on the ground foot or body, he can reach outside or out of bounds and be considered to have crossed the goal line for the most part.

So you could have been totally right, but need more information.

Peace

[Texas Aggie]

Under NCAA rules, the BALL must cross the goal line IN BOUNDS (the pylon is out of bounds) in order for it to be considered a touchdown. However, if the ball crosses the goal line out of bounds (extended goal line), it can still be a touchdown if the player touches any part of the end zone inbounds prior to being out of bounds.

So if the ball crosses inbounds, it doesn't matter what happens with the player. Ball crosses out of bounds, part of the player must touch. This is NCAA; Fed probably differs - at least slightly.