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NCAA: everything that happened on the play is legal PROVIDED THAT K3 had not crossed the neutral zone prior to passing the ball. If he had, both he and the ball would have been across the line, making any forward pass (from both behind and beyond) the neutral zone an illegal forward pass (See 7-3-2-e). While it is arguable that this isn't the intent of that rule, we have nothing else to go on. According to what I'm hearing the OP say, K3 never was beyond the NZ, so the pass would have been legal.
The scrimmage kick crossing the NZ breaks the continuity of downs (Rule 6), so any possession of the ball by Team A (after Team B touching) would mean they keep it. The incomplete forward pass only stands to put the ball at the previous spot for the next down. Good luck explaining it to the Team B coach. |
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Sorry Texas Aggie, but that is not true. In NCAA, you wouldn't have a forward pass to begin with because the ball is dead as soon as K (or A since NCAA doesn't use K/R) recovers the ball. It has nothing to do with where the ball is recovered, only the fact that the kick crossed the neutral zone. It will be A's ball 1st and 10 at the spot of recovery.
6-3-3 6-3-6-a And the exact situation described in AR 6-3-1-I |
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Yes, it's a legal play in FED. 1st and 10 for K at the K-20.
(On another note: the juxtaposition of a thread titled "Muff kick" by a poster named "surehands" made me chuckle). |
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There was a number of decades where Fed rules had it that possession by a K player of a kick made the ball dead regardless of its type or previous trajectory. That was during a time when their philosophy seemed to be that the only good ball was a dead one (for safety), or maybe the rules makers' motiv'n was to keep the rule book short, which having such a rule did, compared to having it as a dead ball in some cases & a live ball in others.
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