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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:06am
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Punt Formation

How deep does a punter have to be in order to receive protection as a punter.
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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:09am
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How deep does a punter have to be in order to receive protection as a punter.
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10 yards.

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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:13am
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Oops! Answered to fast. 10 yards is required for a scrimmage kick formation, which affords the snapper protection. A kicker is always protected unless it is not reasonably certain a kick will be made.

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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 11:46am
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Oops! Answered to fast. 10 yards is required for a scrimmage kick formation, which affords the snapper protection. A kicker is always protected unless it is not reasonably certain a kick will be made.

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A scrimmage kick formation can be one of two things: 1. a player with a knee on the ground 7 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage in position to be a holder, and another player 3 yards or less behind that player in a position to attempt a kick; 2. a player 10 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage in position to receive the snap.

#1 is often used on a FG while #2 is often used on a punt, but both can be used for either situation. In order for a kicker to be afforded protection, they must kick the ball legally.

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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 11:55am
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A scrimmage kick formation can be one of two things: 1. a player in position with the knee on the ground 7 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage in position to be a holder, and another player 3 yards or less behind that player in a position to attempt a kick; 2. a player 10 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage in position to receive the snap.

#1 is often used on a FG while #2 is often used on a punt, but both can be used for either situation. In order for a kicker to be afforded protection, they must kick the ball legally. In order to do so, they must be in one of these two formations.
No. You can legally kick the ball without being in a scrimmage kick formation. A "quick kick" is a legal kick.

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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 12:24pm
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No. You can legally kick the ball without being in a scrimmage kick formation. A "quick kick" is a legal kick.

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You're right. NFHS 6-2-1. This is rule creep getting me from LL. Scrimmage kick formation only matters for numbering exceptions.
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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 12:30pm
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And snapper protection.

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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 01:56pm
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Formation has nothing to do with kicker protection, no matter what Virginia says.
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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:38pm
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Formation has nothing to do with kicker protection, no matter what Virginia says.
Virginia corrected itself. Rule creep happens. Apologies.
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Old Mon Aug 28, 2017, 09:33pm
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Virginia corrected itself. Rule creep happens. Apologies.

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Every kicker is provided protection, no matter what. If he runs and kicks the ball while on the run, the defense is given greater consideration. If the contact is avoidable, it's roughing. If it's unavoidable because he didn't know if a kick would be made, it's legal contact.
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