Notre Dame fake FG - was holder down by rule?

[MD Longhorn]

Fair enough. And sorry if I came off as harsh by recommending a clinic. It bugs me when people post things like "MY interpretation", when there's no such thing - there is only the interpretation of our respective PTB.

This rule is pretty clear. It's only by reading into it what you perceive as right (likely from other rulesets) that the waters get muddied. The rule provides and perfectly describes an exception. No words need to be added to clear up when the exception goes away because the exception doesn't go away.

[BoomerSooner]

No worries...I just thought it was Sooner-Longhorn banter, and quite honestly, when is the recommendation to get into more camps ever a bad one? Clearly you picked up that my knowledge is lacking in a specific area, so why not point me in a direction to help me improve. That's how I took it more than anything.

Regarding your comments about inserting my "interpretation" into the matter, you are absolutely right ( I just admitted a Longhorn is right about something). The literal side of my brain usually wins these types of arguments and led me to the explanation you gave. I just ignored it this time partly because I personally think it is silly that the exception doesn't go away ever. I've also never had an issue with calling a game as the rules are written supplemented by approved rulings and the interpretations of those with more experience and authority than me, so at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what I think is silly.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner

No worries...I just thought it was Sooner-Longhorn banter, and quite honestly, when is the recommendation to get into more camps ever a bad one? Clearly you picked up that my knowledge is lacking in a specific area, so why not point me in a direction to help me improve. That's how I took it more than anything.

Regarding your comments about inserting my "interpretation" into the matter, you are absolutely right ( I just admitted a Longhorn is right about something). The literal side of my brain usually wins these types of arguments and led me to the explanation you gave. I just ignored it this time partly because I personally think it is silly that the exception doesn't go away ever. I've also never had an issue with calling a game as the rules are written supplemented by approved rulings and the interpretations of those with more experience and authority than me, so at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what I think is silly.

It does go away -- when the holder gets tackled!

[Texas Aggie]

I don't think the rule is particularly clear on when the exception ends, so I'm having trouble with this play.

No need for trouble. It was clearly legal. He can stay on his knee all day, and can even rise to receive the snap, go back down, and stay there.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Rich

It does go away -- when the holder gets tackled!

Meaning so held that his forward progress (such as it was) is stopped. So really the exception never goes away.