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Old Fri Sep 04, 2015, 12:53pm
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What is the correct call?

5. K, 4/10 @ K’s 20 YL. K1’s short punt is muffed by R1 @ K’s 30 YL. The loose ball rolls behind the neutral zone and K2
recovers the loose ball @ K’s 18 YL. K2 throws a forward pass to eligible K3 but the pass falls incomplete.
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Old Fri Sep 04, 2015, 12:58pm
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1st and 10 for R from K's 20 (assuming no ineligibles downfied).

Edit: Hmm...I missed the muff on my first reading. Hmm.... But my gut still tells me 1st and 10 for R.
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Old Fri Sep 04, 2015, 01:09pm
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Since the ball was touched by R beyond the LOS, K will be awarded a new series since they were the team last in possession.

1st and 10 for K at the K-20. Clock on the snap.
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Old Fri Sep 04, 2015, 01:15pm
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Since the ball was touched by R beyond the LOS, K will be awarded a new series since they were the team last in possession.

1st and 10 for K at the K-20. Clock on the snap.
The forward pass was legal--K recovered the kick behind the LOS. But is the new series from the previous LOS because it was an incomplete pass?
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Old Fri Sep 04, 2015, 01:16pm
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Correct. A legal forward pass that is incomplete is returned to the previous spot.
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Old Fri Sep 04, 2015, 03:33pm
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High school? If so when K recovers muff the play is whistled down and K's ball at 18. There is no advancement of a muffed punt, therefore F pass is irrelevant.
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Old Fri Sep 04, 2015, 03:36pm
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High school? If so when K recovers muff the play is whistled down and K's ball at 18. There is no advancement of a muffed punt, therefore F pass is irrelevant.

K can recover and advance a scrimmage kick recovered behind the LOS in NFHS rules.
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Old Fri Sep 04, 2015, 03:49pm
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High school? If so when K recovers muff the play is whistled down and K's ball at 18. There is no advancement of a muffed punt, therefore F pass is irrelevant.
Check out 6.2.3.A:
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6.2.3 SITUATION A:

A scrimmage kick by K1 is partially blocked in the neutral zone by R1. The kick goes beyond the neutral zone where R2 muffs it back behind the neutral zone. K2 recovers behind the neutral zone and advances across R's goal line.

RULING: Touchdown for K.

COMMENT: The right of the kickers to advance their recovered scrimmage kick depends entirely upon whether the kick is recovered in, behind or beyond the neutral zone. Whether the kick went beyond the neutral zone and then rebounded behind it is of no consequence. The spot of recovery is the only factor. If the recovery is in or behind the neutral zone, K may advance. If the recovery is beyond the neutral zone, K may recover, but may not advance.
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