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I made the point that the observing official needs to make the decision on flagrant or not based upon the act itself, not whether contact is made with the opponent. If you believe that a deliberate trip is only intentional, then that's fine. Lastly, fighting involving contact during a live ball is a flagrant personal foul. 
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NF 4-18 ART. 1 An attempt to strike, punch or kick by using a fist, hands, arms, legs or feet regardless of whether contact is made. ART. 2 An attempt to instigate a fight by committing an unsporting act that causes a person to retaliate by fighting.
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Thu Jul 09, 2015, 04:28pm
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4-18 Fighting Fighting is a flagrant act and can occur when the ball is dead or live. Fighting includes, but is not limited to combative acts such as: ART. 1 An attempt to strike, punch or kick by using a fist, hands, arms, legs or feet regardless of whether contact is made. ART. 2 An attempt to instigate a fight by committing an unsporting act that causes a person to retaliate by fighting. 4-19 Foul A foul is an infraction of the rules which is charged and is penalized. ART. 1 A personal foul is a player foul which involves illegal contact with an opponent while the ball is live ... ART. 4 A flagrant foul may be a personal or technical foul of a violent or savage nature, or a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct. ART. 5 A technical foul is: b. A noncontact foul by a player. The difference impacts who gets to shoot the free throws, the fouled player, or any player, even one the bench.
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"Everyone has a purpose in life, even if it's only to serve as a bad example." "If Opportunity knocks and he's not home, Opportunity waits..." "Don't you have to be stupid somewhere else?" "Not until 4." "The NCAA created this mess, so let them live with it." (JRutledge)
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Thu Jul 09, 2015, 05:59pm
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Don't Jump The Gun And Fall On Your Sword ...
... How's that for a mixed metaphor?
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Contact during a live ball is a personal foul. A non-contact foul during a live ball is a technical foul.
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Thu Jul 09, 2015, 10:16am
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I would have had to be there to see the intent behind one player trying to grab the other. Did he do it to stop the player from advancing? Did he do it to try and hurt the other player? Those aren't irrelevant questions.
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