Where are the NFHS rule changes?

[JRutledge]

Billy,

You were responding to my comments I made. Then you tried to drag me into a disagreement about something I was not addressing or no one was addressing in this conversation. I realize you seem like a person that does not get out much, but stop telling me what I should talk about because you are hung up on something personally. I do not want to broaden a conversation when the only thing we are talking about (in this actual thread) is this current rule change in the language. If you want to have a conversation about what should happen with undershirt, I am sure there are people that would love to have that conversation with you. But other than you including me in this constant silly rantings of yours, I seem to be the only person talking about these things the way you are. No one else is even addressing undershirts and their color if you have not noticed.

Since sleeves are a new phenomenon in the last 5 to 7 years or so and head bands hardly were even worn for a long stretch, trying to regulate them is equivalent to me as trying to say that everyone should wear a certain color socks. Players have been wearing undershirts for a much longer time and the rule as applied to what can be worn for a longer period of time. And I will never understand why you keep talking about undershirts when we are not going to resolve anything here. Even with sleeves and head bands, the NF does not care what we think. So why is is so important I not ignore your issue? Please do not answer that, I am not wanting an answer.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

...why do they care what color stuff is?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... disagreement about something I was not addressing or no one was addressing in this conversation.

I have already apologized for assuming that you disagreed with a color restriction on undershirts. Accept it, or not.

I'm not "no one". I find that very disrespectful, and belittling. I was addressing this issue in the conversation (thread).

And, "Stuff" can include undershirts. That's the entire basis for my posts in this thread. Maybe you should have been clearer that, "Stuff", was only referring to items mentioned in the new rule change.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I have already apologized for assuming that you disagreed with a color restriction on undershirts. Accept it, or not.

I'm not "no one". I find that very disrespectful, and belittling.

Well you are a no one in this process, just like I am a no one. Nothing we say here is going to change what the NF committees do or do not do. Even if someone reads this site, I doubt the vast majority of the committee knows this place exists or is going to vote or not vote based on such a small sample of officials. So yes, you are a no one to them.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

And, "Stuff" can include undershirts. That's the entire basis for my posts in this thread. Maybe you should have been clearer that "Stuff" was only referring to items mentioned in the new rule change.

Billy, was my comments directed at you at all? And I have not only officiated in Chicago. I happen to belong to an area that is larger than most of your state and certainly do have experiences well outside of Chicago from an officiating and living point of view. But you constantly reference Chicago in your comments towards me and you wonder why I am a little annoyed? Is anyone having an issue with what I have said about this? Nope. Sounds to me you are fighting a one man crusade. But that is typical for you. Not sure why I should be surprised.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Nothing we say here is going to change what the NF committees do or do not do.

I never believed that anything mentioned on this site will create changes in NFHS rules. But we can still post opinions.

(Note: The NFHS basketball rules committee actually looked at two of my suggestions this year, so one person can make a difference.)

All I was doing was responding to your statement:

Originally Posted by JRutledge

...why do they care what color stuff is?

Good question. All I did was try to give an good answer.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

To be able to easily identify teams, and numbers.

I worked a boys high school varsity scrimmage back in the fall where both teams wore scrimmage vests, one team blue, and the other team white. Because it was only a scrimmage, we let both teams wear any color undershirt that the players wanted to wear, and we ended up with about a half dozen different color undershirts, including opponents with the same color undershirts.

It was not very easy to identify teams, especially during rebounding action under the basket.

Granted, the NFHS has gone overboard with some of the "Fashion Police" rules, but same of the color rules are really needed.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One could speculate that another possible reason is that the NFHS wants to prevent a motley mix of uniform, and equipment, colors that could possibly take away from the integrity, and dignity, of the game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I never believed that anything mentioned on this site will create changes in NFHS rules. But we can still post opinions.

(Note: The NFHS basketball rules committee actually looked at two of my suggestions this year, so one person can make a difference.)

All I was doing was responding to your statement:



Good question. All I did was try to give an good answer.

I was not asking for an answer from you. And if I was, I was still not talking about anything outside of the sleeves and bands, not talking about an undershirt or color of the basketball, which you referenced.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... reference Chicago in your comments

Whether it's Chicagoland, or my little corner of Connecticut, one thing that I've learned after joining this Forum is that basketball rule interpretations, and mechanics, are very much a local, or state, phenomena, i.e., the whistle sounded before the officials enter the court to prevent pregame dunking technical fouls in Texas; or the officials observing the post game handshakes in Massachusetts.

I wish I had a dollar every time the phrase, "When in Rome ...", was mentioned here on the Forum.

I believe that I have never said anything derogatory about the officiating in the Chicago area, or any place else for that matter, and if I have, point it out me, and I will certainly apologize.