Where are the NFHS rule changes?

[Rich]

Billy, that was the NFHS rule prior to the penultimate change. Why it wasn't put back in last year is a mystery. Or just sloppiness.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

Billy, that was the NFHS rule prior to the penultimate change. Why it wasn't put back in last year is a mystery. Or just sloppiness.

Or just completely unnecessary.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Or just completely unnecessary.

No, I remember it being a problem -- defenders weren't letting shooters follow through and were backing into and sticking a butt into the shooter. Not enough to call a foul, but certainly violating the spirit of a "free throw."

Wouldn't surprise me to see it be a rule this year.

Once nice thing about doing this a long time is that everything that's old becomes new again...or something like that.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Rich

Once nice thing about doing this a long time is that everything that's old becomes new again...or something like that.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same."

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

No, I remember it being a problem -- defenders weren't letting shooters follow through and were backing into and sticking a butt into the shooter. Not enough to call a foul, but certainly violating the spirit of a "free throw."

Nothing that interferes with the follow through after the release affects the shot. By the time they get to the shooter any thing the shooter needs to do should be done. If they're leaving early enough to get there in time to affect the shot, they were already in violation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Nothing that interferes with the follow through after the release affects the shot.

Physics would support your conclusion 100%. But from a psychological perspective, the shooter being slightly bumped into, and slightly displaced, while in a vulnerable follow through position, could have a detrimental effect on the shooter's accuracy in subsequent shots during the rest of the game. It's called a "free" throw for a reason.

I like the restriction (free throw line for both teams). There must have been a reason why the NFHS had it in the rulebook the last time the NFHS allowed movement on the "release".

Did the NFHS just "forget" to include this (free throw line) restriction, or did they intentionally decide to exclude it from the new (old) rule?

Why did a basketball official training organization, IAABO, unilaterally take on the role of the NFHS and "make up" rules?

[SCalScoreKeeper]

According to the LA Times High School beat writer here are the 2015-16 rule changes.

Basketball: Rule change for 2015-16 to help post players from excessive contact
By Eric Sondheimer

A rule change last season in high school basketball prohibiting excessive contact against dribblers has been expanded to include all ball-handlers on the court, including post players.

The revision in Rule 10-6-12 approved by the National Federation of State High School Associations Board of Directors states that "a player becomes a ball-handler when he/she receives the ball."
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The acts that constitute a foul are a) placing two hands on the player, b) placing an extended arm bar on the player, c) placing and keeping a hand on the player and d) contacting the player more than once with the same hand or alternating hands.

Last year, ball-handlers and dribblers outside of the post area became protected from excessive contact. Now adding post players will likely free up big men to maneuver better in the post.

The Basketball Rules Committee approved four points of emphasis for the upcoming season: post play, rebounding, protecting the free-throw shooter and NFHS mechanics and signals.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

According to the LA Times High School beat writer here are the 2015-16 rule changes.

Basketball: Rule change for 2015-16 to help post players from excessive contact
By Eric Sondheimer

A rule change last season in high school basketball prohibiting excessive contact against dribblers has been expanded to include all ball-handlers on the court, including post players.

The revision in Rule 10-6-12 approved by the National Federation of State High School Associations Board of Directors states that "a player becomes a ball-handler when he/she receives the ball."

The acts that constitute a foul are a) placing two hands on the player, b) placing an extended arm bar on the player, c) placing and keeping a hand on the player and d) contacting the player more than once with the same hand or alternating hands.

Last year, ball-handlers and dribblers outside of the post area became protected from excessive contact. Now adding post players will likely free up big men to maneuver better in the post.

The Basketball Rules Committee approved four points of emphasis for the upcoming season: post play, rebounding, protecting the free-throw shooter and NFHS mechanics and signals.

Sadly, it appears that the NFHS isn't aware of its own rulings!
Post players were indeed included in these contact rules last year.

Basketball Rules Interpretations - 2014-15
By NFHS on November 21, 2014
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Publisher’s Note: The National Federation of State High School Associations is the only source of official high school interpretations. They do not set aside nor modify any rule. They are made and published by the NFHS in response to situations presented.

Robert B. Gardner, Publisher, NFHS Publications © 2014


CLARIFICATION ON POST PLAYER: A post player becomes a ball handler/dribbler when the post player receives the ball, regardless of position on the floor or the direction he/she is facing.
When the offensive player gains possession of the ball, the actions listed in Rule 10-6-12 committed by any defensive player shall be charged as a foul.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Or just completely unnecessary.

Based on what I saw, unnecessary.

Peace

[bballref3966]

Nothing too exciting

http://ohsaa.org/news/201516BasketballRulesRelease.pdf

[JRutledge]

I am trying to figure out other than language was there any changes?

Peace

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bballref3966

Nothing too exciting

http://ohsaa.org/news/201516BasketballRulesRelease.pdf

I just checked both the NFHS.org website and the NFHS Central Hub on ArbiterSports and this press release still is not posted on either website.

Congratulations for the OhioHSAA for getting this information out to its boys' and girls' officials.

MTD, Sr.

[Rich]

There's nothing new. Not a thing.

[Pantherdreams]

How can they make a claim like rebounding vioaltions are among the leading cause of injuries that are happening?

Did they commision a study?

Are they just asking people what they see and remember because most officials aren't going to know about a sprain or strain or contusion at the time it happens its going to be in the days following . . .

Or are they using an arbitrary statement like "among the leading causes" because they can't technically be wrong but don't have any valid evidence . ..

I don't mind making rebounding action a POE but I would like a rationale for anything to be a little more grounded in evidence then the information provided.

[SC Official]

Oh thank goodness, for a second I was worried they weren't going to make editorial changes related to fashion police nonsense.

And yet the trainwreck that is Rule 9-9 still remains.