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Old Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:58pm
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No he wasn't...the play is no different than when a player deliberately bats a rebound from his frontcourt to the backcourt.
So, basically, Joey reached across the court to make an incorrect call in front of his partner then?
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Old Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:09pm
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So, basically, Joey reached across the court to make an incorrect call in front of his partner then?
The trail didn't see the deflection by Duncan...he didn't call a backcourt violation because he thought Danny Green (black 14) hit the ball (he signaled as much and was pointing at him). So the slot was correct in giving him information that the defense (at that point) did not touch the ball.

If the trail had seen the deflection by Duncan, he would have either signal a tip earlier...or after the slot comes in to tell him his information, he tells says he had a defensive deflection prior...making everything else moot...resume at POI.
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Old Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:05pm
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So, basically, Joey reached across the court to make an incorrect call in front of his partner then?
If they had called the travel on Deandre Jordan, all of this would be moot.
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Old Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:21pm
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If they had called the travel on Deandre Jordan, all of this would be moot.
Yeah, moot. Historic, but moot.
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Old Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:22pm
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No he wasn't...the play is no different than when a player deliberately bats a rebound from his frontcourt to the backcourt.
When does it cease to be a bat and become a brief catch and throw? Perhpas he considered the offensive player's actions to be controlled and a pass rather than a bat.
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:37am
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G5 FT question

Do the players not along the lane need to be outside the 3pt line during FTs in the NBA?

Take a look at where #11 of the Clippers is standing during Parker's first FT with 48.5 seconds left in the 4th Q.
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:56am
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Do the players not along the lane need to be outside the 3pt line during FTs in the NBA?

Take a look at where #11 of the Clippers is standing during Parker's first FT with 48.5 seconds left in the 4th Q.
Yeah, they don't call that. It's trifling.
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:14am
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Do the players not along the lane need to be outside the 3pt line during FTs in the NBA?

Take a look at where #11 of the Clippers is standing during Parker's first FT with 48.5 seconds left in the 4th Q.
NBA Rule 9-I-d (edited):

Players not occupying lane spaces must remain on the court behind the three point line above the free throw line extended and may not be touching the line or floor inside the line when the ball is released
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:31am
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NBA Rule 9-I-d (edited):

Players not occupying lane spaces must remain on the court behind the three point line above the free throw line extended and may not be touching the line or floor inside the line when the ball is released
Thought so. The rule is the same as NFHS, except that the player has the opportunity to move back out to avoid violating.

Sad that Scott Foster ignored this as it was right in front of him.
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:03am
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Thought so. The rule is the same as NFHS, except that the player has the opportunity to move back out to avoid violating.

Sad that Scott Foster ignored this as it was right in front of him.
Was he still there during the 2nd free throw?
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Was he still there during the 2nd free throw?
No. 1st was missed, 2nd was made.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:01am
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Thought so. The rule is the same as NFHS, except that the player has the opportunity to move back out to avoid violating.

Sad that Scott Foster ignored this as it was right in front of him.
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Was he still there during the 2nd free throw?
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No. 1st was missed, 2nd was made.
Well, he didn't ignore it then. The player was gone by the 2nd free throw.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:00pm
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Well, he didn't ignore it then. The player was gone by the 2nd free throw.
I don't understand your post. Are you telling me that the players may be anywhere they wish during the first FT under NBA rules as long as they are correctly positioned for the second?

I don't understand why a replacement FT was not awarded for the first FT after it was unsuccessful while a defender was standing inside the 3pt line.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:10pm
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I don't understand your post. Are you telling me that the players may be anywhere they wish during the first FT under NBA rules as long as they are correctly positioned for the second?

I don't understand why a replacement FT was not awarded for the first FT after it was unsuccessful while a defender was standing inside the 3pt line.
Under NBA rules, during a free throw that will not remain in play, there is no violation for being in the lane early/entering from the outside early/players lined up incorrect/lined up when they shouldn't be. The only violation that could occur from these actions would have to be disconcerting action.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:29pm
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I don't understand your post. Are you telling me that the players may be anywhere they wish during the first FT under NBA rules as long as they are correctly positioned for the second?

I don't understand why a replacement FT was not awarded for the first FT after it was unsuccessful while a defender was standing inside the 3pt line.
What is the purpose of the rule?
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