Wisconsin vs. Duke - National Championship - Master Thread

[letemplay]

Another take on the not to overturn after review play: Is there a chance the calling official passed on a foul on the Wisconsin player (for contact on Winslow after he had his hands on rebound), awarded the ball to Duke, and then discussed it with his partners while they were in review? What do you do in that case anyway? I'm guessing some of you will say "Don't pass on the foul in that sitch", but given the chance, wouldn't most?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Another take on the not to overturn after review play: Is there a chance the calling official passed on a foul on the Wisconsin player (for contact on Winslow after he had his hands on rebound), awarded the ball to Duke, and then discussed it with his partners while they were in review? What do you do in that case anyway? I'm guessing some of you will say "Don't pass on the foul in that sitch", but given the chance, wouldn't most?

I think that is rather unlikely in a replay situation.

I just think it is very possible they did not see the view that was the most definitive and not all the angles were definitive.

Peace

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Another take on the not to overturn after review play: Is there a chance the calling official passed on a foul on the Wisconsin player (for contact on Winslow after he had his hands on rebound), awarded the ball to Duke, and then discussed it with his partners while they were in review? What do you do in that case anyway? I'm guessing some of you will say "Don't pass on the foul in that sitch", but given the chance, wouldn't most?

Pass on a foul?? No.

That's old school thinking and is no longer an option at this level.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Another take on the not to overturn after review play: Is there a chance the calling official passed on a foul on the Wisconsin player (for contact on Winslow after he had his hands on rebound), awarded the ball to Duke, and then discussed it with his partners while they were in review? What do you do in that case anyway? I'm guessing some of you will say "Don't pass on the foul in that sitch", but given the chance, wouldn't most?

I highly, highly doubt that justification works when your game is on national TV.

Best bet, they didn't get a definitive view when they went to the monitor.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You have the wrong play.

I don't think so, as Ryan was screaming at the officials to go to the monitor after the play (a time out was called after the play). Seemed to me he wanted a flagrant called on the shooter for going into his player's face.

[parrot]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I don't think so, as Ryan was screaming at the officials to go to the monitor after the play (a time out was called after the play). Seemed to me he wanted a flagrant called on the shooter for going into his player's face.

That was the Jones/Koenig play, not the Winslow play.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

Pass on a foul?? No.

That's old school thinking and is no longer an option at this level.

Old School? well, they passed on a "force out" moments before on Winslow stepping on baseline

[deecee]

IMO I've seen NBA games better officiated. It just seemed to me that at times the officials were reluctant to call fouls in key moments, and on players on both sides. I doubt it was intentional as it's a pretty stressful position they were in, but their threshold for call/no-calls was confusing at best. Why even have a PC foul in the rule book if it's enforced so inconsistently and piss poorly, and most importantly to me is how does the lead miss an OOB call. On baseline drives in 3 person that's like priority #1.

Either way the officiating didn't effect the outcome. Duke made adjustments and Wisconsin didn't.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by parrot

That was the Jones/Koenig play, not the Winslow play.

Oh, sorry

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by deecee

IMO I've seen NBA games better officiated....

I would hope so.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I would hope so.

spit take

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by deecee

IMO I've seen NBA games better officiated.

Of course NBA games are better officiated. Those are professional games with staff referees that have enhanced training, evaluation, and consistent points of emphasis from the league.

As far as the out of bounds play, there was a lot of contact high, so I can see how the foot being out of bounds was missed.

These referees - even those in the NBA - are human. You do realize that, yes?

[parrot]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What a dumbass.

The game came down to two freshman that made plays. Officiating had nothing to do with this game.

BTW, I was cheering for Wisconsin all the way.

Peace

Yeah, there's no way that two out of bounds calls going the wrong way down the stretch of a 5 point game had any impact on the game.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by parrot

Yeah, there's no way that two out of bounds calls going the wrong way down the stretch of a 5 point game had any impact on the game.

Are you suggesting that Wisc. should not have even been in the game?

[parrot]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Are you suggesting that Wisc. should not have even been in the game?

No.