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Old Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:44pm
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But he's not. And it wasn't.
He's not a full-time professional official and it wasn't an awful piece of work from him?
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:53pm
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He's not a full-time professional official and it wasn't an awful piece of work from him?
No, he isn't a doctor, and this isn't life or death, this is basketball which is more important.
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He's not a full-time professional official and it wasn't an awful piece of work from him?
He's not an MD, and this was not a surgery.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:20pm
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He's not a full-time professional official and it wasn't an awful piece of work from him?
Even though I could have been slightly more clear (not much, though), I'm certain you knew what I meant.

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He's not an MD, and this was not a surgery.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:37pm
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Even though I could have been slightly more clear (not much, though), I'm certain you knew what I meant.

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Of course I did, but I'm making a point about how we think about accountability in basketball officiating.
We can't talk about professionalism, especially for those who work in the NBA, and then write off egregious errors as "it's only a game and mistakes happen" or whatever other line people want to use.
If we want officials to be seen as and treated as professionals, which the NBA officials certainly are and are paid as, then there needs to be actual accountabilty when they botch something.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:48pm
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Of course I did, but I'm making a point about how we think about accountability in basketball officiating.
We can't talk about professionalism, especially for those who work in the NBA, and then write off egregious errors as "it's only a game and mistakes happen" or whatever other line people want to use.
If we want officials to be seen as and treated as professionals, which the NBA officials certainly are and are paid as, then there needs to be actual accountabilty when they botch something.
Uh there is accountability. Internally.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:05pm
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Of course I did, but I'm making a point about how we think about accountability in basketball officiating.
We can't talk about professionalism, especially for those who work in the NBA, and then write off egregious errors as "it's only a game and mistakes happen" or whatever other line people want to use.
If we want officials to be seen as and treated as professionals, which the NBA officials certainly are and are paid as, then there needs to be actual accountabilty when they botch something.
You and I both know there is accountability. I think it's a safe bet the NBA has already discussed this situation with the official who missed it.

I just wanted to make the point that comparing this to medical malpractice isn't going to validate your point. Yes, we're professionals, and this guys gets to do it full time. But it's not surgery, it's a game.

As fans, we should remember that, and not think someone should be put in the stocks when he makes a mistake on the court.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:17pm
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You and I both know there is accountability. I think it's a safe bet the NBA has already discussed this situation with the official who missed it.

I just wanted to make the point that comparing this to medical malpractice isn't going to validate your point. Yes, we're professionals, and this guys gets to do it full time. But it's not surgery, it's a game.

As fans, we should remember that, and not think someone should be put in the stocks when he makes a mistake on the court.
You are doing exactly what I wrote above, being an apologist and trivializing the importance of the job. "It's a game."

The amount of money paid to those in this profession says otherwise.
If they are going to be paid like doctors and lawyers, it's about time that they be held to similar standards.

A quick internet search on the $
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Senior Referees : Annual Earnings ($600,000) :
Senior Referees are well known for their fair decision and they followed and known with each rule of NBA and have experienced of big matches . There salaries were estimated $550,000 during 2009 which might have increased from that period of time . They received this salary budget on their experienced level as Official in NBA. The expected per match fee of the Senior Referees is $3,500 which is increased when there is big rivalry game between two NBA teams. Entry-Level Referees : Annual Earnings ($200,000) :
The young referee’s who were participating in the NBA league almost get the $1,500 per game for their services, they have this low salary because of lack of experience , with past of time their salaries were increased as they become the experienced member of the NBA Officials .
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I'm just saying basketball isn't life-or-death.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:28pm
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You are doing exactly what I wrote above, being an apologist and trivializing the importance of the job. "It's a game."

The amount of money paid to those in this profession says otherwise.
If they are going to be paid like doctors and lawyers, it's about time that they be held to similar standards.
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So you want teams to be able to sue for malpractice over a bad call?
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You are doing exactly what I wrote above, being an apologist and trivializing the importance of the job. "It's a game."

The amount of money paid to those in this profession says otherwise.
If they are going to be paid like doctors and lawyers, it's about time that they be held to similar standards.
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Can't disagree more. The significance of the consequence of making a mistake is always relevant. The procedures doctors are expected to follow are what they are in order to reduce almost all opportunities for mistakes... Often times to a degree that seems quite excessive. But, a life is on the line so the extra precautions are warranted.

If the NBA wanted that level of precision, they'd use a couple dozen referees and multiple camera angles to cover every play. But, they don't. They don't want the game bogged down with making sure every play is covered to perfection in every aspect. They are OK that a single game can have a few missed calls with the expectation that they will not become an increasing problem.
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