Northern Iowa at Illinois State (Video)

[JRutledge]

Very last play of the game. Contact and no foul.

Peace

[APG]

These guys clearly haven't heard of the "bodies on the floor need a whistle" rule.

But seriously, call something. Looks like a charge to me, but another view might show something else.

[bballref3966]

I have a PC that occurs with about half a second on the clock. If that was called, Northern Iowa still would have won more than likely, after a throw-in and possibly a T on the Illinois State coach.

[HokiePaul]

Really hard to see the secondary defender in this video. First view in real time I thought it was an okay no call because I thought the defender jumped straight into the air and remained within his vertical plane and we are sort of straightlined to judge how much contact there was.

On subsequent looks, he may not have actually jumped but was attempting to draw a charge instead. It looked like the defender was legal, but I really can't tell from the video angle.

[griblets]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

On subsequent looks, he may not have actually jumped but was attempting to draw a charge instead.

Whether he jumped vertically (within his plane) or stayed on the floor is irrelevant to drawing a charge.

I have a PC foul on the play.

[Camron Rust]

Defender appeared legal. Possible charge but hard to see how much contact there really was from that angle. Shooter went up awkwardly and went to the floor mostly because of that. Defender may have embellished. Would have liked a different angle.

[Nevadaref]

1. Secondary defender should be handled by the Lead.
2. The C gets blocked out by another defender.

In my opinion the secondary defender did a great job and legally got to the spot. The Lead should have whistled a PC. He was fortunate that the shot was not successful.

[mutantducky]

great no-call. I love it!
I hate the whole call a foul because there was a collision. That's just good D here.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

great no-call. I love it!
I hate the whole call a foul because there was a collision. That's just good D here.

That is a lot of contact to not call something. I agree that I am not a fan of just making any call just because there is contact, but this was not one of those situations where you can pass on this and certainly not one John Adams has advocated to no-call.

Peace

[mutantducky]

when I freeze it at 21 seconds I see the Defender set. I also see the offensive player taking off, from the side so it is different from some other charging calls. To me it is the same time which is why I like the no-call. I thought the D made a good play. As did the offensive player who was taking it into the lane(perhaps he should have faded away though!). Why should I penalize either when it is so close as is the case here?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

great no-call. I love it!
I hate the whole call a foul because there was a collision. That's just good D here.

Well, if someone plays good defense and gets run over or displaced, there is also the option of calling a foul on the offense.

[mutantducky]

actually when I break it down more I think a block call could have been right. My first choice remains the no-call. Second block.
I ran it at full speed then the slo-mo. The offensive player is going for the shot before the defender is set. The space between them is hard to determine but I'd have no problem with the blocking call here.
freeze it at 12, then play, freeze, repeat 2 times at 13 seconds. Offensive player at one point is almost parallel to the floor.
then slo-mo at 20 and 21.

It is a very difficult play to call.

[Danvrapp]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

when I freeze it at 21 seconds I see the Defender set.

C'mon...does no one else see the humor here...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

actually when I break it down more I think a block call could have been right. My first choice remains the no-call. Second block.
I ran it at full speed then the slo-mo. The offensive player is going for the shot before the defender is set. The space between them is hard to determine but I'd have no problem with the blocking call here.
freeze it at 12, then play, freeze, repeat 2 times at 13 seconds. Offensive player at one point is almost parallel to the floor.
then slo-mo at 20 and 21.

It is a very difficult play to call.

What is the significance of A1 almost being parallel to the floor? Are you saying he got bumped from behind?