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Old Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:42pm
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This type of block / charge play came up on another thread. At the D1 level, whether you like it or not 90% of the officials are going to call a block if the defender doesn't "take" the charge. You can argue all you want that the rules doesn't state that ( Billy Mac will be outraged) but that is the reality.....

Easy block....offensive player can't come down.
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Old Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:07pm
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I see a defensive foul coming down on the arms.
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Old Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:09pm
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That's not the play I was thinking of.

Looking at that play, seems like a block or maybe illegal use of hands (extends arms as the defender is backpeddling). Easy defensive foul call IMO.

I wish I had marked the time of the play I was thinking of. Oh well.
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Old Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:21pm
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The torsos didn't even touch. There was at least a foot of space between them at the closest point. It can't be a block if they don't touch. There might have been slight knee to knee contact which could be a block but I have illegal use of hands.
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Old Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:50pm
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The torsos didn't even touch. There was at least a foot of space between them at the closest point. It can't be a block if they don't touch. There might have been slight knee to knee contact which could be a block but I have illegal use of hands.
Just give the cheating signal.

The whole notion of giving the "wrong" signal is just silly to me.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:18am
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Uh there's nothing with the hands, guys. The defender gets the ball. Maybe not entirely ball but not enough for a foul at that level.

That said I doubt ref was looking there at all, he was busy dealing with the block/charge play. I have an easy block. Regardless of how you feel about the falling before torso contact the defender trips the offensive player with his knees/feet.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:55am
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I thought it was a no call then and I haven't changed my opinion.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2015, 05:24am
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No call. White throw in.

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Old Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:23am
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Uh there's nothing with the hands, guys. The defender gets the ball. Maybe not entirely ball but not enough for a foul at that level.
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That's a lot of arm. I have a foul at that level, and other levels as well.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:27am
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That's a lot of arm. I have a foul at that level, and other levels as well.
Exactly. I think the shooter may have had a chance to get a shot off until there was substantial contact on the elbow. The fact that he may have got the ball previously doesn't make the arm fair game.
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