Advice

[deecee]

I can't offer much advice except that I retired from all adult leagues about 8-10 years ago. I also limit my offseason work to tournaments only of HS/college level.

Wreck leagues IMO are awful, and not worth the price of admission for what you have to deal with. I'm yet to find one that proves me wrong.

[so cal lurker]

Having played in a couple of adult leagues, my advice would be: only do it if you are going to take the games seriously.

The worst stuff I saw in games came when it was a apparent that the ref was mailing it in -- guys that looked like they knew what they should be doing but were just there for the $ and didn't care if they were doing a good job. They always seemed surprised when a game (which they seemed to consider beneath them) spriraled out of control.

[mutantducky]

I've been lucky doing adult leagues that have run fairly smoothly. A few blowups but nothing major. The worst refs I've seen are the ones who are doing it a lot. They are clearly getting worn out and are totally dogging it. There was this elite league I was doing, with very high quality ball, so the games were running fine because the players know what to do, but I was shocked that some of the refs were not even bothering crossing half court on many occasions. Just asking for trouble if things went south. 3 games max per day and probably 9 in a week. But scheduling can be tough for those leagues as a lot of regular refs don't want to do them.

[BillyMac]

I haven't done these types of games (in my case, this was a high school recreation league, with kids that didn't make the high school team, or didn't want to play on the high school team) in fifteen years, but when I did, I didn't lower my "scholastic" standards one iota. I worked these games twice a week when I was available (back then, Mondays, and Wednesdays, weren't big scholastic basketball nights), and only worked with a few guys who shared my high standards.

If the league is going to use many different officials, then that could create problems when one official let's them get away with murder, and a few nights later another official comes in and wants the game officiated with higher standards. Consistency is important.

[Refk]

Thanks for the pointers..............

I am not charging the league for my services because the team's entry fees go to a local youth sports group and my friend wants to keep costs down if possible. He is paying for officials but looked to me and my partner to help if possible.

Thanks again

Refk

[FTVMartin]

work hard and call it tight. you take more shit from teams when you let someone get hacked without a call. If they deserve it, you can loosen up as the game goes on but always set the tone by staying tight early.

Originally Posted by FTVMartin

work hard and call it tight. you take more shit from teams when you let someone get hacked without a call. If they deserve it, you can loosen up as the game goes on but always set the tone by staying tight early.

I'd second that. I recently worked some intramural championship at a local college. The 'B' league game was terrible, dude couldn't play through shit. We should have called that a lot tighter. The 'A' league game was much better and we could call it closer to a high school or college game.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Refk

Thanks for the pointers..............

I am not charging the league for my services because the team's entry fees go to a local youth sports group and my friend wants to keep costs down if possible. He is paying for officials but looked to me and my partner to help if possible.

Thanks again

Refk

I suggest you be paid for your work, and then make a donation to the local youth sports group. Donating your time, talents, experience and efforts will most likely be taken for granted by the participants, sooner or later.
Then, the nonsense you put up with, in the adult league, will wear thin, and your feeling of dignity in the work you do on the floor, will not be sufficient compensation. By being paid for the games you do, and then choosing to donate your pay, you will be in control of your emotional involvement. JMHO

[Refk]

Well, I finished my first weekend with Mens' league and overall was pleasantly surprised how it went. I used many of the suggestions given here and it was effective. I called it relatively tight to start with, very decisive and loud with the whistle. I explained calls if asked but did not put up with whining, if it started they got ...... "guys I don't put up with questioning every call so don't." Honestly, had zero problems the first two games and they were actually pretty fun. The last game was not much fun ( easily killed the fun I had in first games) --- both teams tired and my partner (runs the league) was tired.


Towards end of game, one team was really getting mouthy so while administering FT I get both teams together to discuss. I told both teams "I'm done with any questioning of calls and any further comments by a player and you will be assessed a technical, period". The comments stopped until the last minute of 2 point game when my partner gave player T for questioning a call. I think it really sent a message because you could have heard a pin drop the rest of the game.

So.......... a big thanks for the advice : I went ahead and took pay for officiating then donated part of it back and part of it went for my son's fee. I am going to pass on the rules suggestions as I think they will help. I talked with league admin and he felt by having " real refs" the games went much, much better. He is now trying to recruit local officials in addition to my self so there is more consistency in calls. I told him as long as he "backed us " then he shouldn't have any probelms.

There is so much interest in the league I think it will be continued next year . Unfortunately, there are no men's leagues anywhere close to our area ( due to players being a&#@, and nobody will officiate).

Thanks again

RefK