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Old Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:34am
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I was asked by a friend to "help out" officiating a men's league he has put together -- I agreed. I watched this Sunday as a spectator (my son played on it, college season over) and was impressed with how everyone handled themselves. Currently there are no men's league basketball in our area due to S&$*# that always occurs and I feel that impacted how players behaved. I also believe that as the league moves on they may revert back to being As^$& . My friend started the first game of the league with a quick speech " We will let you play a bit, especially in the paint BUT if anyone thinks about swinging a fist they are gone and if they swing they are gone and the police will be called. I talked with him yesterday and asked how the rest of the games went and he said he had one team start complaining so .......he stopped the game asked them if they wanted to play(keep playing but mouth shut) or complain (immediate forfeit).

I feel he has a good "handle on things " but looking for any other "rules" you have seen that help with the BS.

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Old Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:08am
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I was asked by a friend to "help out" officiating a men's league he has put together -- I agreed. I watched this Sunday as a spectator (my son played on it, college season over) and was impressed with how everyone handled themselves. Currently there are no men's league basketball in our area due to S&$*# that always occurs and I feel that impacted how players behaved. I also believe that as the league moves on they may revert back to being As^$& . My friend started the first game of the league with a quick speech " We will let you play a bit, especially in the paint BUT if anyone thinks about swinging a fist they are gone and if they swing they are gone and the police will be called. I talked with him yesterday and asked how the rest of the games went and he said he had one team start complaining so .......he stopped the game asked them if they wanted to play(keep playing but mouth shut) or complain (immediate forfeit).

I feel he has a good "handle on things " but looking for any other "rules" you have seen that help with the BS.

Thanks

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You can do it his way, but he's going to carry more weight since it's his league. Another way is just to call the technical fouls when they start complaining. Sounds like he'll back you.
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Old Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:48am
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I can't offer much advice except that I retired from all adult leagues about 8-10 years ago. I also limit my offseason work to tournaments only of HS/college level.

Wreck leagues IMO are awful, and not worth the price of admission for what you have to deal with. I'm yet to find one that proves me wrong.
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Old Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:46pm
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Having played in a couple of adult leagues, my advice would be: only do it if you are going to take the games seriously.

The worst stuff I saw in games came when it was a apparent that the ref was mailing it in -- guys that looked like they knew what they should be doing but were just there for the $ and didn't care if they were doing a good job. They always seemed surprised when a game (which they seemed to consider beneath them) spriraled out of control.
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Old Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:06pm
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I've been lucky doing adult leagues that have run fairly smoothly. A few blowups but nothing major. The worst refs I've seen are the ones who are doing it a lot. They are clearly getting worn out and are totally dogging it. There was this elite league I was doing, with very high quality ball, so the games were running fine because the players know what to do, but I was shocked that some of the refs were not even bothering crossing half court on many occasions. Just asking for trouble if things went south. 3 games max per day and probably 9 in a week. But scheduling can be tough for those leagues as a lot of regular refs don't want to do them.
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Old Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:47pm
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Consistency ...

I haven't done these types of games (in my case, this was a high school recreation league, with kids that didn't make the high school team, or didn't want to play on the high school team) in fifteen years, but when I did, I didn't lower my "scholastic" standards one iota. I worked these games twice a week when I was available (back then, Mondays, and Wednesdays, weren't big scholastic basketball nights), and only worked with a few guys who shared my high standards.

If the league is going to use many different officials, then that could create problems when one official let's them get away with murder, and a few nights later another official comes in and wants the game officiated with higher standards. Consistency is important.
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Old Thu Mar 19, 2015, 08:20am
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Hey RefK!

Where in Missouri are we talking here? I'd gladly do rec games for 25/game with an administration geared toward not taking any crap.

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