Controversial end to Oregon Tournament Game

[JRutledge]

I cannot tell anything by the video.

I did not read all the comments but if I am waiving off the basket, I am not taking my time. I am waving it off immediately and I am going towards the table. I am not watching the ball go through the hole.

Man that was close and I am glad it was not me with that lack of video evidence. Still some games to go and now I am scared.

Peace

[zm1283]

Did you guys watch the video that was posted in the comments on the original article? It is shot from behind the black team's bench and it shows the shot clearly should have counted.

I'm assuming 6A is one of Oregon's biggest classes, and this is a state playoff game? Unbelievable that you would still have 2-person crews at that point in the season. In Missouri, even the smallest classes use 3-person crews from the district tournaments all the way to the state finals.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Did you guys watch the video that was posted in the comments on the original article? It is shot from behind the black team's bench and it shows the shot clearly should have counted.

I'm assuming 6A is one of Oregon's biggest classes, and this is a state playoff game? Unbelievable that you would still have 2-person crews at that point in the season. In Missouri, even the smallest classes use 3-person crews from the district tournaments all the way to the state finals.

If your officials have been working 2-person crews all season, I fail to see how adding a third in the playoffs is helpful.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

If your officials have been working 2-person crews all season, I fail to see how adding a third in the playoffs is helpful.

Well when my state added 3 person for the playoffs almost 20 years ago, this allowed the conferences to go to 3 person full time. And no one is considering going backwards. There are a couple of conferences that still use 2 person, but they do not get a lot of the better officials or officials that work better conferences. So maybe a policy will change the overall practice of those that do the regular season assigning.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well when my state added 3 person for the playoffs almost 20 years ago, this allowed the conferences to go to 3 person full time. And no one is considering going backwards. There are a couple of conferences that still use 2 person, but they do not get a lot of the better officials or officials that work better conferences. So maybe a policy will change the overall practice of those that do the regular season assigning.

Peace

True, it's a way to start transitioning into a 3-person system. If it goes on for more than a couple of years, though, it's no longer a transitional adjustment.

[StripedYooper]

In my area we do a mix of two and three person during the regular season. One of the main factors is the lack of officials. For playoffs in Michigan everything is three person. Personally I think that 3 person provides a better product regardless of what is used during the year.

[OrStBballRef]

I'm the the association that normally has both of those schools (along with Camron) and the next day I had a playoff game in the same area as the winning school.

Our assigner dropped by our locker room at halftime of our playoff game just to say hi and give us a couple of observations. I asked him if he had seen the video and he stated he only looked at it briefly as he had been travelling between several of our smaller classification tournaments last weekend. He thought the shot was off before the horn...

The officials in this game weren't from our association, but from another one down south. I asked if he had any blowback from the call and he stated he hadn't, but he was sure glad the two officials weren't from our association as he'd be dealing with a lot of grief from various parties if they were!

There has been some talk of Oregon going to 3 man (finally) in the next couple of years, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Did you guys watch the video that was posted in the comments on the original article? It is shot from behind the black team's bench and it shows the shot clearly should have counted.

The second video leaves no doubt - at least as it relates to the horn.