Selling Calls

Originally Posted by bas2456

Wondering if you agree with this notion or not:

"If you have to sell the call, you probably didn't get the call right"

That's a direct quote from a GSL softball officiating newsletter-ish thing. But the notion applies to all sports.

So in basketball, do you think that notion is true?

That notion is totally false. Not every action that warrants a call is the obvious kind that everyone in the gym can see. What do you do for those not-so-obvious ones?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by AremRed

That notion is totally false. Not every action that warrants a call is the obvious kind that everyone in the gym can see. What do you do for those not-so-obvious ones?

When an official at lead sells the heck out of his block/charge call by banging his fists against and thrusting his hips repeatedly like a rooster chicken having $e% on the court, that typically means he didn't see the legal guarding position of the secondary defender because he was ballwatching and focusing on the dribbler instead of the defender and had to try to overcome the fact that he missed it, had to guess, and therefore defaulted to a block.
OK, not always. But a lot.
Other than that poor excuse for having to sell a call, I deem that there are times when selling a call is genuinely necessary and correct. Not to draw undue attention to the official, but to convey confidence and certainty on a call that, to the untrained eye of a subjective fan, could have gone the other way.

Originally Posted by Freddy

When an official at lead sells the heck out of his block/charge call by banging his fists against and thrusting his hips repeatedly like a rooster chicken having $e% on the court, that typically means he didn't see the legal guarding position of the secondary defender because he was ballwatching and focusing on the dribbler instead of the defender and had to try to overcome the fact that he missed it, had to guess, and therefore defaulted to a block.

Damn Freddy, tell us how you really feel.

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Freddy

When an official at lead sells the heck out of his block/charge call by banging his fists against and thrusting his hips repeatedly like a rooster chicken having $e% on the court, that typically means he didn't see the legal guarding position of the secondary defender because he was ballwatching and focusing on the dribbler instead of the defender and had to try to overcome the fact that he missed it, had to guess, and therefore defaulted to a block.
OK, not always. But a lot.
Other than that poor excuse for having to sell a call, I deem that there are times when selling a call is genuinely necessary and correct. Not to draw undue attention to the official, but to convey confidence and certainty on a call that, to the untrained eye of a subjective fan, could have gone the other way.

Solid logic, lol.

I agree with the second part of your post though.

Selling a call, to me, is merely projecting confidence in said call. I see younger/newer officials make the right call with poor sell jobs and it makes everyone in the gym question the call.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Freddy

When an official at lead sells the heck out of his block/charge call by banging his fists against and thrusting his hips repeatedly like a rooster chicken having $e% on the court, that typically means he didn't see the legal guarding position of the secondary defender because he was ballwatching and focusing on the dribbler instead of the defender and had to try to overcome the fact that he missed it, had to guess, and therefore defaulted to a block.
OK, not always. But a lot.
Other than that poor excuse for having to sell a call, I deem that there are times when selling a call is genuinely necessary and correct. Not to draw undue attention to the official, but to convey confidence and certainty on a call that, to the untrained eye of a subjective fan, could have gone the other way.

When an official gently puts his hands on his hips, it doesn't give me much confidence, either.

[Rob1968]

In sales, there is what one might call, an "assumed close." For example, "Would you like to pay for that with cash or a credit card?" In such a case, the sale person presents, in a simple and confident way, the request for the exchange of goods/services for payment, without asking if the buyer has decided to buy the item/service.

Often, in officiating, when an official is sure of the call, and that most of the interested parties can see and understand the call, no "selling" is needed - just the appropriate signals. And, in fact, to sell such a call, may be interpreted as an attempt to convince oneself and any observers, that he/she got the call right. Indeed, to "oversell" a call, or to oversell the obvious calls, can lead to less confidence in the observers, regarding the competence and confidence of the official. It may be likened to the "little boy who cried wolf" situation.

I use three variants of the NFHS PC foul signal, in a block/charge call. The obvious nature of such a call, determines which method I use. And, I am most emphatic in expressing (selling) either the block signal, or the charge/PC signal, when I sense that the offended player needs to know that he/she is rewarded, so as to allay any feelings they may be showing, that they need to retaliate.

A calm, confident presentation of the correct signals, most often demonstrates to the coaches, players and fans, that the official has "been there, seen that, before."

Recently, as I reported a block call against his player, that my partner couldn't see, he being straight-lined, the coach asked, "Hey Rob, have you ever been wrong on a call?" I answered, with a smile, "Well, once I thought I might have been wrong, but when we reviewed the video, I was mistaken!" We both chuckled, and the game continued.

[bob jenkins]

I agree with Rob that sometimes you can "sell" a call by underselling it.

and, can we get rid of that annoying repeating gif.

[Nevadaref]

There is nothing wrong with exhibiting confidence and strength with mechanics when making a call, but I don't believe in the need to "sell" any decision.
Why not?
1. No one is buying anyway. The supporters, players, and coaching staff of the team that the decision goes against isn't going to be happy about it no matter what antics are displayed when presenting the call.
2. Officials don't change calls anyway. Whatever was decided is what the call is, barring video replay which is now becoming used with more frequency. Recently, I've found it rather amusing to watch pro baseball or college football on TV and observe an official emphatically making a call, which video replay shows to be incorrect! So what purpose did the hard "sell" serve? It didn't make the official correct.

[KCRC]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Recently, I've found it rather amusing to watch pro baseball or college football on TV and observe an official emphatically making a call, which video replay shows to be incorrect! So what purpose did the hard "sell" serve? It didn't make the official correct.

See "sold" OOB call reversed by monitor review with 8 seconds left in 2nd half of South Dakota St - North Dakota St. Summit League Championship Game last night (ESPN2).

[just another ref]

I don't see a need to sell anything. Rather, I think it is best to keep the same demeanor on every call. Obviously, this is more animated for some than others. Personally, I like to keep a low profile with signals .

[Rich]

A close block/charge. One is going to emphasize that decision differently than a routine out of bounds call.

Like it or not, that's selling the call.