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bob jenkins Tue Mar 03, 2015 08:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 956767)
I'm putting him on the line.

Plus, if I'm the official in the video, I'm contacting my neurologist to see why my whistle and arm seem to have an echo. What is with the multiple whistle and fist pump? It looks silly. It wasn't like it was in a double coverage area where it was possible his partner was going to have something different.

Some do it to help "sell" the call.

I agree with awarding FTs here.

JRutledge Tue Mar 03, 2015 09:37am

I have a shooting foul all the way. Great call.

Peace

APG Tue Mar 03, 2015 09:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 956794)
I have a shooting foul all the way. Great call.

Peace

The official didn't put this in the act of shooting.

JRutledge Tue Mar 03, 2015 09:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 956797)
The official didn't put this in the act of shooting.

Not so much a great call then. But it should have been shooting all the way.

Peace

johnnyg08 Tue Mar 03, 2015 09:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 956797)
The official didn't put this in the act of shooting.

What did it look like from the benches? It didn't appear to be too dramatic from either bench...would it have changed had they put him on the line?

Disclaimer: I know the reaction of the benches don't matter when it comes to getting the call right...but sometimes they do react to an expected vs unexpected call.

BillyMac Tue Mar 03, 2015 04:00pm

Tough Call, Either Way ...
 
NFHS: In the act of shooting.

APG Tue Mar 03, 2015 04:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 956800)
What did it look like from the benches? It didn't appear to be too dramatic from either bench...would it have changed had they put him on the line?

Disclaimer: I know the reaction of the benches don't matter when it comes to getting the call right...but sometimes they do react to an expected vs unexpected call.

Don't know...this is the first half, so the replays only show the defensive bench. The opposing coach did question the nearest official the next time down the court though.

JRutledge Tue Mar 03, 2015 04:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 956841)
NFHS: In the act of shooting.

It is the act of shooting in NCAA Men's too. That does not mean people still will not say, "On the floor" when they do not understand the rule. ;)

Peace

BillyMac Tue Mar 03, 2015 05:01pm

Coming Soon To A Theater Near You ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 956846)
It is the act of shooting in NCAA Men's too. That does not mean people still will not say, "On the floor" when they do not understand the rule.

Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game

Calvin Coolidge once said, "The things I did not say never hurt me." Of course, he was not talking about basketball, but many officials would be smart to heed his sage advice as they communicate with coaches, and players.

Good communication skills are important tools to have on any official’s tool belt. Good communication with a partner, with a player, or with a coach, can go a long way to maintaining control of the game, having good game management, and having a smooth game. Sometimes this communication takes place in oral form, talking to players, or coaches, in some cases to explain a ruling, or in other cases to prevent a violation, or a foul. However, probably for reasons of tradition, there have been things that officials often, or sometimes, say during a game that do not have any basis in the rules, and should probably not be said in a game. This article will cover some of those “best left unsaid” statements.

"On the floor”, sometimes stated by officials for fouls against players who are not in the act of shooting, is also not rule based. This implies that a player cannot be on the floor, and shooting, at the same time, when in reality the old fashioned set shot, still used by some three point shooters, is a classic example of a player, on the floor, who is also in the act of shooting. Better statement: “No shot”.

Finally, a thought by Will Rogers, “Never miss a good chance to shut up.”

HawkeyeCubP Thu Mar 05, 2015 06:01pm

Shooting foul. Thought so live. Thought so on replay. Confirmed here after watching 4 more times. That defender's hand restricting the shooter's left arm is a foul. Try had started.


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