Oklahoma/Iowa State Act of Shooting? (Video)
 

Somewhere between 5:10 and 5:20 in the first half on ESPN. Iowa State fouls late in the shot clock, ball was awarded OOB.

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no shot

Given the shot clock was nearing 0, I think that in the act of shooting.

I don't see bailing him out just because the team allowed the shot clock to run out.

I think the only question under NCAA-M rules is whether you think the shooter has started his upward motion. I think it's close, but I would have given the shooter the benefit of the doubt here. Any other rule set, I have the shooter easily in the act of shooting.

Absolutely...the shot clock is about to expire. 999/1000 times, if that player is rising, he's doing so to try and beat the shot clock. One of the things thought at levels using the shot clock regularly is that you should use the shot clock as a way to keen in on your game awareness as to what will most likely happen next.

You're bailing out the defender for being stupid and having his hand in the proverbial cookie jar with a second left on the shot clock...instead of being punished completely by putting a guy on the line, putting this sideout gives the defender a virtual mulligan. Using the shot clock to dictate your game awareness in this situation, it should be clear that the offensive player is meaning the shoot here. The only fallback one could have, under NCAA-M rules, is perhaps the offensive player was fouled a split second before he started his upward motion. That would be the calling official's only cop out.

The defender is going to feel a sigh of relief that he didn't commit a cardinal sin of bailing out an offensive player....especially with under two on the shot clock.

The guy had lost control of the ball, and if you don't think he lost control then he committed an illegal dribble. He barely had regained control when the foul occurred. I don't see a try here.

He momentarily loses control of the ball (via probably the defender hitting the ball...not that it actually even matters in this case)...regathers the ball with two hands on the ball...starts to rise...then gets hit on the forearm...which causes him to lose the ball again.

+1.

I see a slightly different sequence. Defender lunges forward while the ball is loose. Contact occurs as control is recovered, before any upward movement that I could see as a shot.

Shooting foul. Clock is almost at 0, he isn't doing anything else.

Offensive players have been known to lose track of the clock.

So? It's pretty clear he hasn't lost track of the clock here.

I'm putting him on the line.

Plus, if I'm the official in the video, I'm contacting my neurologist to see why my whistle and arm seem to have an echo. What is with the multiple whistle and fist pump? It looks silly. It wasn't like it was in a double coverage area where it was possible his partner was going to have something different.

Some do it to help "sell" the call.

I agree with awarding FTs here.

I have a shooting foul all the way. Great call.

Peace

The official didn't put this in the act of shooting.

Not so much a great call then. But it should have been shooting all the way.

Peace

What did it look like from the benches? It didn't appear to be too dramatic from either bench...would it have changed had they put him on the line?

Disclaimer: I know the reaction of the benches don't matter when it comes to getting the call right...but sometimes they do react to an expected vs unexpected call.

Tough Call, Either Way ...
 

NFHS: In the act of shooting.

Don't know...this is the first half, so the replays only show the defensive bench. The opposing coach did question the nearest official the next time down the court though.

It is the act of shooting in NCAA Men's too. That does not mean people still will not say, "On the floor" when they do not understand the rule. ;)

Peace

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Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game

Calvin Coolidge once said, "The things I did not say never hurt me." Of course, he was not talking about basketball, but many officials would be smart to heed his sage advice as they communicate with coaches, and players.

Good communication skills are important tools to have on any official’s tool belt. Good communication with a partner, with a player, or with a coach, can go a long way to maintaining control of the game, having good game management, and having a smooth game. Sometimes this communication takes place in oral form, talking to players, or coaches, in some cases to explain a ruling, or in other cases to prevent a violation, or a foul. However, probably for reasons of tradition, there have been things that officials often, or sometimes, say during a game that do not have any basis in the rules, and should probably not be said in a game. This article will cover some of those “best left unsaid” statements.

"On the floor”, sometimes stated by officials for fouls against players who are not in the act of shooting, is also not rule based. This implies that a player cannot be on the floor, and shooting, at the same time, when in reality the old fashioned set shot, still used by some three point shooters, is a classic example of a player, on the floor, who is also in the act of shooting. Better statement: “No shot”.

Finally, a thought by Will Rogers, “Never miss a good chance to shut up.”

Shooting foul. Thought so live. Thought so on replay. Confirmed here after watching 4 more times. That defender's hand restricting the shooter's left arm is a foul. Try had started.