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Old Mon Mar 02, 2015, 05:54pm
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I'm Certainly Not Being Obtuse ...

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It seems as though you're either trying to troll, or being intentionally obtuse,.
And you aren't following the thread.

I have been responding to this statement:

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I've never seen a player shoot the ball on the way down in a jump stop.
I believe Camron Rust when he states that he has never observed this, but I have. Why would he lie?

I would like Camron Rust to consider the possibility that this play (shoot the ball on the way down in a jump stop) could actually happen, and then deal with the ramifications of that happening, which would include, in my opinion, no continuation in the play if the shooter had been fouled on the first shooting move upward, not the second shooting motion, on the "over under" move when a shooter sees that his shot may be blocked, and "buttonhooks" the shot around the blocker's outstretched arms, and hands (a kind of double pump).

That's all. Nothing obtuse about that.
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2015, 10:21pm
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I believe Camron Rust when he states that he has never observed this, but I have. Why would he lie?
You haven't seen it.

If a player shoots the ball on the way down, then it's not a jump stop.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2015, 07:10am
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Jump (For My Love) (The Pointer Sisters, 1983) ...

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If a player shoots the ball on the way down, then it's not a jump stop.
He's an airborne shooter, he eventually has to land. As an airborne shooter, he had to elevate, or jump, and he stopped descending when he hit the floor. All kinds of physical laws are involved here. Newton would have loved to study this play. Let me check Rule 4 to find a proper term, or definition. No jump stop in Rule 4. Maybe I could call it a landing? Better? Wait? No landing in Rule 4.

Now, if you are referring to the various legal methods of moving one's feet while holding the ball, as described in 4-44 (not identified as jump stop by the NFHS), you're right.
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