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JRutledge Sat Feb 28, 2015 08:36pm

Is this a travel? (Video)
 
This was discussed on a fan site.

Tell me why or why not this is a travel?

I will hang up and listen for your answer. :D

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KhIlVjKMVxY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

APG Sat Feb 28, 2015 08:50pm

Guess it's a HTBT situation ;)

JRutledge Sat Feb 28, 2015 08:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 956511)
Guess it's a HTBT situation ;)

Yep funny guy!!! :)

Peace

crosscountry55 Sat Feb 28, 2015 09:20pm

Travel. Dribble ends while player's left foot is in contact with the court (making it the pivot foot), then alights off the pivot foot. At this point, for a jump stop to be legal, the player must return to the court with both feet simultaneously. Instead, the right foot lands in a step, followed by the pivot foot returning to the court before the player releases on the try for goal.

This is actually easier to call on the court than many will think. Both feet landing simultaneously in a legal jump stop is almost always followed by a pause while the player looks for someone to pass to, or an immediate jump shot. This was not the case here, so if it was noted when the dribble ended, the travel call is easy.

bob jenkins Sat Feb 28, 2015 09:23pm

Block.

crosscountry55 Sat Feb 28, 2015 09:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 956516)
Block.

This is true. That happened first. Was that one of the multiple choice answers from the OP? :D

bob jenkins Sat Feb 28, 2015 09:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 956519)
This is true. That happened first. Was that one of the multiple choice answers from the OP? :D

The OP was not a multiple choice question. ;)

It was "Tell me why or why not this is a travel?"

So, I did.

Hugh Refner Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:52pm

Block prior to the travel.

Camron Rust Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 956520)
The OP was not a multiple choice question. ;)

It was "Tell me why or why not this is a travel?"

So, I did.

Agree.....block. If it were not for the block, she may have been able to complete a proper jump stop....but we'll never know.

Raymond Sun Mar 01, 2015 01:11am

Block...in NCAA-Men's that would be a common foul, not shooting, because of the upward motion facet of the rule set.

Ignoring that, question. Since most all agree there was a block, what about the fact that her pivot foot came back down before releasing the shot? Are we counting the basket and ignoring the travel?

Camron Rust Sun Mar 01, 2015 03:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 956546)
Block...in NCAA-Men's that would be a common foul, not shooting, because of the upward motion facet of the rule set.

Ignoring that, question. Since most all agree there was a block, what about the fact that her pivot foot came back down before releasing the shot? Are we counting the basket and ignoring the travel?

Nope. I would not even have her in the act of shooting at the time of the block. A player coming down on a jump stop is not yet in the act of shooting IMO.

SNIPERBBB Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:48am

For whatever reason here, they want anytime that a player gathers the ball and is fouled a shooting foul. Havent figured out if that is an association thing or from the state but its not one I'm fond one.

BillyMac Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:49am

Two Cents ...
 
Block.

Continuous motion (during the interval which begins when the habitual throwing movement starts a try … permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any activity while holding the ball. These privileges are granted only when the usual throwing motion has started before the foul occurs and before the ball is in flight).

Travel.

No basket.

Two free throws.

Or, to keep things simple, figure that everything balances out (one coach avoids a foul on his player, the other gets some points), and don't blow the whistle, like these guys did. That's a rule? Right?

Camron Rust Sun Mar 01, 2015 01:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 956567)
Block.

Continuous motion (during the interval which begins when the habitual throwing movement starts a try … permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any activity while holding the ball. These privileges are granted only when the usual throwing motion has started before the foul occurs and before the ball is in flight).

Travel.

No basket.

Two free throws.

Or, to keep things simple, figure that everything balances out (one coach avoids a foul on his player, the other gets some points), and don't blow the whistle, like these guys did. That's a rule? Right?

I don't include landing from a jump stop to be part of the movements that habitually precede the shot. It is a separate motion in my opinion.

BillyMac Sun Mar 01, 2015 02:32pm

Continuation ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 956578)
I don't include landing from a jump stop to be part of the movements that habitually precede the shot. It is a separate motion in my opinion.

Even if accompanied by "customary arm movement(s)"?


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