Is this a travel? (Video)

[BillyMac]

Block.

Continuous motion (during the interval which begins when the habitual throwing movement starts a try … permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any activity while holding the ball. These privileges are granted only when the usual throwing motion has started before the foul occurs and before the ball is in flight).

Travel.

No basket.

Two free throws.

Or, to keep things simple, figure that everything balances out (one coach avoids a foul on his player, the other gets some points), and don't blow the whistle, like these guys did. That's a rule? Right?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Block.

Continuous motion (during the interval which begins when the habitual throwing movement starts a try … permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any activity while holding the ball. These privileges are granted only when the usual throwing motion has started before the foul occurs and before the ball is in flight).

Travel.

No basket.

Two free throws.

Or, to keep things simple, figure that everything balances out (one coach avoids a foul on his player, the other gets some points), and don't blow the whistle, like these guys did. That's a rule? Right?

I don't include landing from a jump stop to be part of the movements that habitually precede the shot. It is a separate motion in my opinion.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't include landing from a jump stop to be part of the movements that habitually precede the shot. It is a separate motion in my opinion.

Even if accompanied by "customary arm movement(s)"?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Even if accompanied by "customary arm movement(s)"?

Coming down is not customary arm movement....and I've never seen a player shoot the ball on the way down in a jump stop.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Coming down is not customary arm movement....and I've never seen a player shoot the ball on the way down in a jump stop.

Not even the "over under" move when a shooter sees that his shot may be blocked, and "buttonhooks" the shot around the blocker's outstretched arms, and hands? But, in this "over under" (like a kind of double pump) case, many officials, including me, would not call that continuous motion if the shooter was fouled on the first motion.

So with just shooter's move, alone, described above, without a foul, could a player shoot the ball on the way down? I say, "Yes".

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Not even the "over under" move when a shooter sees that his shot may be blocked, and "buttonhooks" the shot around the blocker's outstretched arms, and hands? But, in this "over under" (like a kind of double pump) case, many officials, including me, would not call that continuous motion if the shooter was fouled on the first motion.

So with just shooter's move, alone, described above, without a foul, could a player shoot the ball on the way down? I say, "Yes".

Different moves, different results.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

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So with just shooter's move, alone, described above, without a foul, could a player shoot the ball on the way down? I say, "Yes".

Per NCAA-Men's, the answer is no. YMMV

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Per NCAA-Men's, the answer is no.

Sorry. I thought the video was from a high school game.

So, under NCAA rules, an airborne shooter, who, at the apex of his jump, decides that his shot will be blocked, and decides to wait a split second and shoot the ball on the way down, before landing, to possibly avoid the blocked shot, is performing an illegal act.

So, Camron Rust's statement, "I've never seen a player shoot the ball on the way down in a jump stop", is not only true (he really has never seen this move), but it's also illegal? What's the NCAA infraction, illegal shot?

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Even if accompanied by "customary arm movement(s)"?

lol @ "accompanied by customary arm movements"

[ballgame99]

Block, waive off the basket, shoot two.

How do you have a no-call here?