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Old Fri Feb 27, 2015, 03:29pm
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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 01:57am
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Cool. I like it. A little transparency and maybe a little bit of teaching to the fanboys out there.
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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:39am
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Wonder how long it will be before NBA refs take interviews about calls and justify their 98.4% accuracy rate.....
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 11:05am
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Interesting to note that the NBA admitted that not only was James Harden fouled with :04 left on his drive to the basket (an obvious missed call based on replays), but the crew missed 2 OTHER calls during the last 2:00 of the Grizzlies vs Rockets game.

So for the record, the officials missed 3 of 10 calls in the last 2:00.

Should be fun to follow how this policy unfolds as we head into the playoffs….

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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 11:21am
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It should be noted that one of those INC's was noted with a *...which means:

Calls that are indirectly related to the outcome (e.g., a non-call on contact away from the play) and/or plays that are only observable with the help of a stop-watch, zoom or other technical support, but have some merit in reporting, are denoted with an *.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 11:23am
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Is there a link to the actual reports?
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 11:29am
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Each nights reports are posted in the morning here:

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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 12:19pm
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It should be noted that one of those INC's was noted with a *...which means:

Calls that are indirectly related to the outcome (e.g., a non-call on contact away from the play) and/or plays that are only observable with the help of a stop-watch, zoom or other technical support, but have some merit in reporting, are denoted with an *.
So, they're considering calls that are hard to see under live circumstances but actually incorrect in their reports as INC or IC (noting that they were probably very hard to see). Note, they are still calling them incorrect and being hard to tell doesn't make them correct.

Sounds a lot like they don't agree with the philosophy promoted in some discussions here where the value of slo-mo/stop-frame video in determining the correctness of a call is dismissed with something like "if it takes slo-mo to see it, it didn't happen".
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 01:18pm
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On the Harden play, surprised they didn't rotate. I believe Lead would have seen foul if he rotated, and would have pulled Malloy down into an open look.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 01:51pm
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On the Harden play, surprised they didn't rotate. I believe Lead would have seen foul if he rotated, and would have pulled Malloy down into an open look.
Tough angle for C and L.

By the way, Malloy way not on the game.
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On the Harden play, surprised they didn't rotate. I believe Lead would have seen foul if he rotated, and would have pulled Malloy down into an open look.
NBA mechanics dictate no rotations under 5 seconds on the shot clock.

Also would be a hell of a get for Malloy...seeing as he wasn't even on the game.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 02:15pm
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NBA mechanics dictate no rotations under 5 seconds on the shot clock.

Also would be a hell of a get for Malloy...seeing as he wasn't even on the game.
Oh, saw kinda tall and didn't look hard. Assuming that would be Lane then.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 10:36pm
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So, they're considering calls that are hard to see under live circumstances but actually incorrect in their reports as INC or IC (noting that they were probably very hard to see). Note, they are still calling them incorrect and being hard to tell doesn't make them correct.

Sounds a lot like they don't agree with the philosophy promoted in some discussions here where the value of slo-mo/stop-frame video in determining the correctness of a call is dismissed with something like "if it takes slo-mo to see it, it did happen".
This. Welcome to the technological/data driven age of accountability not coming to a high school/middle school near you tomorrow but . . . just not being able to see it doesn't mean it didn't happen and that you made the right call.
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Old Sat Mar 07, 2015, 10:10am
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Oh, saw kinda tall and didn't look hard. Assuming that would be Lane then.
Plus Lane is black and Malloy is white. Well, technically ginger.
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This. Welcome to the technological/data driven age of accountability not coming to a high school/middle school near you tomorrow but . . . just not being able to see it doesn't mean it didn't happen and that you made the right call.

I'm not going to put a microscope on any of my plays or cut video frame by frame. But I agree that we are now in the age of technology-driven accountability, even at the youth and rec-league level. It is unfortunate to see websites like deadspin post video stories showing bad calls made by officials making $15 per game.

I don't even like seeing this at the high school level, where yes, there should be accountability of officials. But it certainly doesn't need to be at a national scale.
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