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Pantherdreams Fri Feb 27, 2015 03:29pm

Play by PLay of All Calls to Close games. . .
 
http://www.slamonline.com/nba/nba-re...s-crunch-time/

Sharpshooternes Sat Feb 28, 2015 01:57am

Cool. I like it. A little transparency and maybe a little bit of teaching to the fanboys out there.

justacoach Sat Feb 28, 2015 08:39am

Wonder how long it will be before NBA refs take interviews about calls and justify their 98.4% accuracy rate.....:D:D

twocentsworth Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:05am

Interesting to note that the NBA admitted that not only was James Harden fouled with :04 left on his drive to the basket (an obvious missed call based on replays), but the crew missed 2 OTHER calls during the last 2:00 of the Grizzlies vs Rockets game.

So for the record, the officials missed 3 of 10 calls in the last 2:00.

Should be fun to follow how this policy unfolds as we head into the playoffs….

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12...ies-nba-admits

APG Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:21am

It should be noted that one of those INC's was noted with a *...which means:

Calls that are indirectly related to the outcome (e.g., a non-call on contact away from the play) and/or plays that are only observable with the help of a stop-watch, zoom or other technical support, but have some merit in reporting, are denoted with an *.

Raymond Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:23am

Is there a link to the actual reports?

APG Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:29am

Each nights reports are posted in the morning here:

http://official.nba.com/

Camron Rust Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 957156)
It should be noted that one of those INC's was noted with a *...which means:

Calls that are indirectly related to the outcome (e.g., a non-call on contact away from the play) and/or plays that are only observable with the help of a stop-watch, zoom or other technical support, but have some merit in reporting, are denoted with an *.

So, they're considering calls that are hard to see under live circumstances but actually incorrect in their reports as INC or IC (noting that they were probably very hard to see). Note, they are still calling them incorrect and being hard to tell doesn't make them correct.

Sounds a lot like they don't agree with the philosophy promoted in some discussions here where the value of slo-mo/stop-frame video in determining the correctness of a call is dismissed with something like "if it takes slo-mo to see it, it didn't happen".

Raymond Fri Mar 06, 2015 01:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 957158)
Each nights reports are posted in the morning here:

http://official.nba.com/

On the Harden play, surprised they didn't rotate. I believe Lead would have seen foul if he rotated, and would have pulled Malloy down into an open look.

Jay R Fri Mar 06, 2015 01:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 957173)
On the Harden play, surprised they didn't rotate. I believe Lead would have seen foul if he rotated, and would have pulled Malloy down into an open look.

Tough angle for C and L.

By the way, Malloy way not on the game.

APG Fri Mar 06, 2015 01:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 957173)
On the Harden play, surprised they didn't rotate. I believe Lead would have seen foul if he rotated, and would have pulled Malloy down into an open look.

NBA mechanics dictate no rotations under 5 seconds on the shot clock.

Also would be a hell of a get for Malloy...seeing as he wasn't even on the game. ;)

Raymond Fri Mar 06, 2015 02:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 957175)
NBA mechanics dictate no rotations under 5 seconds on the shot clock.

Also would be a hell of a get for Malloy...seeing as he wasn't even on the game. ;)

Oh, saw kinda tall and didn't look hard. Assuming that would be Lane then.

Pantherdreams Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 957162)
So, they're considering calls that are hard to see under live circumstances but actually incorrect in their reports as INC or IC (noting that they were probably very hard to see). Note, they are still calling them incorrect and being hard to tell doesn't make them correct.

Sounds a lot like they don't agree with the philosophy promoted in some discussions here where the value of slo-mo/stop-frame video in determining the correctness of a call is dismissed with something like "if it takes slo-mo to see it, it did happen".

This. Welcome to the technological/data driven age of accountability not coming to a high school/middle school near you tomorrow but . . . just not being able to see it doesn't mean it didn't happen and that you made the right call.

AremRed Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 957181)
Oh, saw kinda tall and didn't look hard. Assuming that would be Lane then.

Plus Lane is black and Malloy is white. Well, technically ginger. :D

jpgc99 Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams (Post 957208)
This. Welcome to the technological/data driven age of accountability not coming to a high school/middle school near you tomorrow but . . . just not being able to see it doesn't mean it didn't happen and that you made the right call.


I'm not going to put a microscope on any of my plays or cut video frame by frame. But I agree that we are now in the age of technology-driven accountability, even at the youth and rec-league level. It is unfortunate to see websites like deadspin post video stories showing bad calls made by officials making $15 per game.

I don't even like seeing this at the high school level, where yes, there should be accountability of officials. But it certainly doesn't need to be at a national scale.


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