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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 09:09am
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I can only imagine how I'd feel if I had wasted money to attend that game.
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 09:33am
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Did a coach get suspended?
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 10:10am
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So, did one of the pitchers throw a complete game shut-out or did they use a reliever . . . oops . . . wrong forum . . .
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 10:25am
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as long as that clock kept running, I'm cool with it

Had a middle school girls game this week that was 2-2 with 2:00 left in the THIRD quarter. There was a late offensive explosion and we ended up with a 10-6 final. The first two baskets were scored early in the 1st, and I had to waive off a FT because the shooter immediately entered the lane (it's Feb, people - you haven't learned yet?). We were afraid at halftime that failure to go to 3-2 would end up in OT!

Unfortunately they weren't running a stall offense. More like the 'run around, turn it over, wrestle around, and not hit the broad side of a barn' offense.
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 10:34am
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Maybe get a shot clock . . .

Other then that we have to live with this stuff.
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 10:57am
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I wonder if the officials showered after the game.
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 11:56am
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Maybe get a shot clock . . .

Other then that we have to live with this stuff.
Eight states have shot clocks, ostensibly to avoid stuff like this. And then the NFHS penalizes them by denying said state a seat on the rules committee.

Unless this becomes far more common, which I don't think it will, the NFHS will hold steady. Shot clocks are a lot more for officials and table personnel to think about, require upgrades that the schools have to fund, and perhaps most importantly wouldn't really have much of an impact. I don't see high school games too often where teams spend more than 20 seconds in an offensive set much less 30 or 35.

One anomalous game in Alabama does not a national trend make.
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 12:56pm
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Maybe get a shot clock . . .

Other then that we have to live with this stuff.
A solution in search of a problem. These games make the news because they're rare.
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 01:36pm
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There are crappy coaches everywhere. This game brought together two of them, obviously.
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Old Wed Feb 04, 2015, 01:37pm
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A solution in search of a problem. These games make the news because they're rare.
And the flip side of the problem is that in states that use the shot clock we end up with really lop-sided scores because the teams have to keep shooting every 30/35 seconds.

Didn't we just have a huge discussion about a game like that?
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I get that as an official shot clock is more work. (I officiate with and without depending on which side of the border I'm on).

I will say games I work with a shot clock are far more action packed and engaging (though more difficult) then games I do without. Games without settle into a rythm very quickly and tactics become pretty evident. Games with shot clock is the same but many more broken plays or creativity on the fly by players to track. Anything could happen on a possesion particualrly late in the clock.

This is less as an official but more as parent/fan/ambassador of the sport. I would rather have high school kids (my kid or anyone elses) on a team that needs to play and make plays at in at least 50 possessions per game (absolute minimum in FIBA if both teams did nothing but hold the ball) and probably closer to 80 possessions. THen in a game where the coaches and key players on each team totally dominate a much smaller number of possessions.

As an official my pay check is better and the game is easier to officiate and anticipate when no shot clock exists. As a basketball person I prefer the games with.
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Old Thu Feb 05, 2015, 12:37pm
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Maybe get a shot clock . . .

Other then that we have to live with this stuff.
In the 20 or so schools I worked in this season I would trust maybe 2 to be able to handle a shot clock.
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as long as that clock kept running, I'm cool with it

Had a middle school girls game this week that was 2-2 with 2:00 left in the THIRD quarter. There was a late offensive explosion and we ended up with a 10-6 final. The first two baskets were scored early in the 1st, and I had to waive off a FT because the shooter immediately entered the lane (it's Feb, people - you haven't learned yet?). We were afraid at halftime that failure to go to 3-2 would end up in OT!

Unfortunately they weren't running a stall offense. More like the 'run around, turn it over, wrestle around, and not hit the broad side of a barn' offense.
Right before Christmas, I officiated a CYO JV Girls #3 game (4th graders with possibly a couple of third graders). Our score after 3 quarters was 0-0, but it wasn't from lack of trying. A lot of missed shots, turnovers, and an occasional violation was the norm, similar to scrounge's game.

During the break before the fourth quarter, I told my partner that the first team to score would win. Sure enough, the home team scored a minute and a half into the final quarter, and they held on for a 2-1 victory.
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CYO JV Girls #3 game (4th graders with possibly a couple of third graders). Our score after 3 quarters was 0-0, but it wasn't from lack of trying. A lot of missed shots, turnovers, and an occasional violation was the norm ...
Sounds like our Catholic middle school league's junior varsity B, or C, division.

One important caveat for us, no overtime. A game that ends tied, ends tied.

(Mark Padgett would love this rule.)

So we could possibly have a 0-0 game.
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Sounds like our Catholic middle school league's B, or C, division.

One important caveat for us, no overtime. A game that ends tied, ends tied.

(Mark Padgett would love this rule.)

So we could possibly have a 0-0 game.
I have no objection to a coin flip.
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