Basketball game ends, 2-0

[Pantherdreams]

I get that as an official shot clock is more work. (I officiate with and without depending on which side of the border I'm on).

I will say games I work with a shot clock are far more action packed and engaging (though more difficult) then games I do without. Games without settle into a rythm very quickly and tactics become pretty evident. Games with shot clock is the same but many more broken plays or creativity on the fly by players to track. Anything could happen on a possesion particualrly late in the clock.

This is less as an official but more as parent/fan/ambassador of the sport. I would rather have high school kids (my kid or anyone elses) on a team that needs to play and make plays at in at least 50 possessions per game (absolute minimum in FIBA if both teams did nothing but hold the ball) and probably closer to 80 possessions. THen in a game where the coaches and key players on each team totally dominate a much smaller number of possessions.

As an official my pay check is better and the game is easier to officiate and anticipate when no shot clock exists. As a basketball person I prefer the games with.

[SC Official]

Who will be paying for the shot clock equipment at the rural, underfunded schools in South Carolina and other states which struggle just to pay officials' game fees?

Until this question is answered, there will not be a shot clock in high school basketball.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Rich

There are crappy coaches everywhere. This game brought together two of them, obviously.

What intrigues me is that two teams were doing this. Typically this is a stratedy used by a team that doesn't think it can compete at full speed. Really, really slowing down the game can frustrate the other team. Often after playing defense for 2 minutes, the team that is used to scoring a lot cranks up a crappy shot because they are frustrated.

As I recall, a game not too dissimilar to this was the straw that broke the camel's back for the NBA to insitute a shot clock. I want to say it was a multiple overtime game that ended something like 16-12 -- with only one shot taken each of the fist couple of OT periods, as the team that won the tip in the first couple of OTs held on to take buzzer shots. Tough to sell a product like that!

[Hugh Refner]

I think a 2-0 game worked out the way Dr. Naismith intended it to.

[bob jenkins]

After the first quarter, I *might* be asking the coaches if they want to shorten each quarter to something less than 8 minutes.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

After the first quarter, I *might* be asking the coaches if they want to shorten each quarter to something less than 8 minutes.

like 30 seconds.

[APG]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Who will be paying for the shot clock equipment at the rural, underfunded schools in South Carolina and other states which struggle just to pay officials' game fees?

Until this question is answered, there will not be a shot clock in high school basketball.

Obviously you don't mandate schools have it in the next year...5-10 years or whatever to implement.

At the very least, NFHS should make it allowable by state adoption.

[Altor]

Originally Posted by Rich

There are crappy coaches everywhere. This game brought together two of them, obviously.

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

What intrigues me is that two teams were doing this.

Originally Posted by link in OP

Bibb County improved its record to 22-9, and Brookwood dropped to 19-9.

Perhaps 30+ games in a season, including 4 in one week is too much for 16-year-olds?

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by scrounge

as long as that clock kept running, I'm cool with it

Had a middle school girls game this week that was 2-2 with 2:00 left in the THIRD quarter. There was a late offensive explosion and we ended up with a 10-6 final. The first two baskets were scored early in the 1st, and I had to waive off a FT because the shooter immediately entered the lane (it's Feb, people - you haven't learned yet?). We were afraid at halftime that failure to go to 3-2 would end up in OT!

Unfortunately they weren't running a stall offense. More like the 'run around, turn it over, wrestle around, and not hit the broad side of a barn' offense.

Right before Christmas, I officiated a CYO JV Girls #3 game (4th graders with possibly a couple of third graders). Our score after 3 quarters was 0-0, but it wasn't from lack of trying. A lot of missed shots, turnovers, and an occasional violation was the norm, similar to scrounge's game.

During the break before the fourth quarter, I told my partner that the first team to score would win. Sure enough, the home team scored a minute and a half into the final quarter, and they held on for a 2-1 victory.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

CYO JV Girls #3 game (4th graders with possibly a couple of third graders). Our score after 3 quarters was 0-0, but it wasn't from lack of trying. A lot of missed shots, turnovers, and an occasional violation was the norm ...

Sounds like our Catholic middle school league's junior varsity B, or C, division.

One important caveat for us, no overtime. A game that ends tied, ends tied.

(Mark Padgett would love this rule.)

So we could possibly have a 0-0 game.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sounds like our Catholic middle school league's B, or C, division.

One important caveat for us, no overtime. A game that ends tied, ends tied.

(Mark Padgett would love this rule.)

So we could possibly have a 0-0 game.

I have no objection to a coin flip.

[NormanDale]

Originally Posted by Treeguy

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more...2-0/ar-AA8WFqR

Both teams went into a stall, 7 shots taken total.

"The National Federation of State High School Associations claims the score tied the record for the lowest-scoring game in the history of high school basketball."

According to the NFHS website, there were 3 games that were 1-0.

1 Georgetown IL vs. Homer IL (1-0), 3-6, 1930
1 Magnolia IL vs. Granville Hopkins IL (1-0), 11-20, 1929
1 Drain OR vs. Wilbur OR (1-0), 1927

Peach baskets?

[NormanDale]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Who will be paying for the shot clock equipment at the rural, underfunded schools in South Carolina and other states which struggle just to pay officials' game fees?

Until this question is answered, there will not be a shot clock in high school basketball.

North Dakota uses a shot clock, plays 18 minute halves. I believe MN is also playing halves now instead of quarters. North Dakota had a shot clock in the large schools, I believe all schools play with it now.

Yes, its an expense and 1 more person to have to pay at the table, but with time, schools found a way to do it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by NormanDale

North Dakota uses a shot clock, plays 18 minute halves. I believe MN is also playing halves now instead of quarters. North Dakota had a shot clock in the large schools, I believe all schools play with it now.

Yes, its an expense and 1 more person to have to pay at the table, but with time, schools found a way to do it.

It's not the expense so much as the hassle. We're lucky to get one competent clock operator.

My main issue, though, is that it's really not necessary.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by NormanDale

According to the NFHS website, there were 3 games that were 1-0.

1 Georgetown IL vs. Homer IL (1-0), 3-6, 1930
1 Magnolia IL vs. Granville Hopkins IL (1-0), 11-20, 1929
1 Drain OR vs. Wilbur OR (1-0), 1927

Peach baskets?

This struck me as weird since I was born and raised in Illinois and now live in Oregon. I'll check my old schedules and see if I did any of those games, maybe with MTD Sr.