Most fitting coach objection

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Do you ever see this done in a college or NBA game when you're watching on TV? No.

So why do NFHS games become this weird laboratory for officiating experiments? This kind of, "watch what I have the power to do!" stuff is nonsense. Indeed, fourth quarter of a close game, for Pete's sake please find another way to address this.

John Adams et al. made teams not breaking timeouts an NCAA POE a couple years back. But like pace of play in baseball, change isn't coming overnight. So in the meantime, stay close to the huddle, stare in the assistant coach's face, hold up two fingers, and keep verbalizing. But please don't put the ball down when an entire team isn't even moving onto the floor. For college officials that's a sure way to get kicked off a staff. Should be like that for HS, too.

I'd recommend following the rule over your advice.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'd recommend following the rule over your advice.

If you were a cop, you'd pull me over for doing 57 in a 55, wouldn't you?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

If you were a cop, you'd pull me over for doing 57 in a 55, wouldn't you?

I'd certainly ticket you for making an illegal u-turn.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

If you were a cop, you'd pull me over for doing 57 in a 55, wouldn't you?

No, but if I warned you 5 days straight and every day you increased your speed by a few mph then I would then ticket you. If you kept going 57 I probably wouldn't notice.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

No, but if I warned you 5 days straight and every day you increased your speed by a few mph then I would then ticket you. If you kept going 57 I probably wouldn't notice.

If he did get a ticket for going 57, I'm curious what his argument would be in court.
"I was only slightly speeding."
"I wasn't breaking the law by much."
"What I did was illegal, but I still shouldn't be punished."

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If he did get a ticket for going 57, I'm curious what his argument would be in court.
"I was only slightly speeding."
"I wasn't breaking the law by much."
"What I did was illegal, but I still shouldn't be punished."

I would argue selective, biased enforcement. Which is what I've been arguing all along.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'd recommend following the rule over your advice.

I'd recommend following the standard in your area.

some places -- it's second horn, wait 1 second, whistle, ball in play.

some places -- it's second horn, talk to the huddle, clap your hands, if even one player is starting to move toward the floor wait, .....

most places -- it's somewhere in-between.

It should be the first. But, just like the "automatic fouls", until EVERYONE gets on the same page, and the coaches know it's coming, and they accept that it's their "fault" if the team isn't out on time, ... it won't change.

[Eastshire]

I put the ball down for the first time in probably ten years last week after waiting about 5 seconds with no sign of breaking the huddle at all.

If you show that you're breaking the huddle I'll wait but if you're just ignoring the horn, especially if the opponent has honored it, we're not being fair if we don't set it down.

Originally Posted by Eastshire

if the opponent has honored it, we're not being fair if we don't set it down.

Exactly. It's one of my favorite moments when I give the ball to a team who is ready at the second horn and they are able to score an easy layup as the other team is sprinting to try and get into position. Usually clears up any problem we have getting them out of the huddle in the future.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Exactly. It's one of my favorite moments when I give the ball to a team who is ready at the second horn and they are able to score an easy layup as the other team is sprinting to try and get into position. Usually clears up any problem we have getting them out of the huddle in the future.

In the games I work, it would be the perfect recipe for a technical foul.

If you're serious, this is horrible advice unless everyone does it that way where you live and it's expected.

Originally Posted by Rich

In the games I work, it would be the perfect recipe for a technical foul.

If you're serious, this is horrible advice unless everyone does it that way where you live and it's expected.

I save this technique for the AAU and travel youth ball leagues.