Box out or no call? (Video)

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Originally Posted by Eastshire

Citiation? If red had jumped straight up and white jumped into his back would that have been legal since red was moving?

Not what I meant....I was referring to horizontal movement, not jumping straight up.

Originally Posted by Eastshire

If they both jumped straight, agreed. If red jumped as he did in the video and white jumped straight, I have a foul on red.

If that was all that white did, then I'd agree. But that isn't what he did.

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I strongly disagree. Red jumps to the ball which is behind white. He tries to jump through white which causes him to land on white's shoulders. Red bridges himself here.

Go around, not through. Red goes through here.

You really need to watch that video again.

The only reason that ball is behind white is that the white player kept bumping and shoving the red player farther and farther under the basket while the shot was in the air. White then finishes it off with a dirty move of submarining red by bending over and continuing to move under him. There is nothing acceptable about that.

Even if the first shove didn't occur, I'm still calling a foul on white. They were both moving towards each other. White made no play on the ball. His only action was to undercut red. Whether red had jumped towards him or not is irrelevant in this play. If white had, instead, tried to go up for the ball, then yes, maybe foul on red. But, again, whites only action was to take reds legs out from under him....and that would have still happened even if red had jumped perfectly straight.

No way I'm penalizing red for his actions after being displaced from the spot he had earned or when his opponents only action is to take out his legs.