Box out or no call? (Video)

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by deecee

"what else is he supposed to do?"

He can do whatever he wants, coach, but that contact is a foul.

I wouldn't call it intentional, but I wouldn't try to talk a partner out of an intentional foul here either.

[rockyroad]

To me the foul takes place before the red player ever jumps. He is displaced and backed down until he is almost under the rim. Yes the white player undercuts him also, but the displacement came before that ever happened.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

To me the foul takes place before the red player ever jumps. He is displaced and backed down until he is almost under the rim. Yes the white player undercuts him also, but the displacement came before that ever happened.

I'm in this camp. Now when would you blow the whistle? As the shot's in the air or after the ball hits the rim (possession consequence)?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rooster

I'm in this camp. Now when would you blow the whistle? As the shot's in the air or after the ball hits the rim (possession consequence)?

I'm working on delaying my whistle. Did so on a rebounding foul this past weekend. Was not an undercut, but the same concept.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm working on delaying my whistle. Did so on a rebounding foul this past weekend. Was not an undercut, but the same concept.

Did so too in a game last week however my delayed whistle might have been too delayed. Coach was hollering (not that I give a rat's rear end...) about already having the ball and moving up the court...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rooster

Did so too in a game last week however my delayed whistle might have been too delayed. Coach was hollering (not that I give a rat's rear end...) about already having the ball and moving up the court...

I will wait as long as seeing whether or not the shot is going in...once it is clearly missed, I put a whistle on it.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I will wait as long as seeing whether or not the shot is going in...once it is clearly missed, I put a whistle on it.

+1

I see White #45, not #42. He is not boxing out. Boxing out is screening, not displacing, and #45 started displacing just after the release. I'm waiting to see where the rebound is going, and it clearly affected the play.

#45 White, pushing.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Rooster

I'm in this camp. Now when would you blow the whistle? As the shot's in the air or after the ball hits the rim (possession consequence)?

Personally, I will wait to see if there is a possession consequence - or, in other words, and advantage gained by the white player. So my whistle would have gone off before the red player jumped (assuming I even saw this and wasn't looking to see who was in the stands or something stupid like that).