Blocked Shot?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Thats what I'm trying to establish . . .seems opinion is mixed.

Not an airborne shooter for two reasons.

First, he left the ball without the ball. Had he released a try before jumping, the answer would be the same.

Second, and most importantly, he never released a try. An airborne shooter must be someone who has either released a try, or still has the ball and is attempting to do so. Your player is simply someone who had the ball stolen who then proceeded to jump into the air.

[griblets]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

As he gathers and starts to elevate B2 reaches in and strips the ball on the way up

Originally Posted by Adam

Not an airborne shooter for two reasons.

First, he left the ball [edit: floor] without the ball. Had he released a try before jumping, the answer would be the same.

I misread the OP. I agree that there can be no airborne shooter if he leaves the floor without the ball.

I don't mean to hijack the thread with the following question, but would it change your ruling if A1 was stripped by B1 after becoming airborne, subsequently to have his legs taken out from under him while still airborne by B2 who is diving for the loose ball? That's what the play I was making the argument for A1 being an airborne shooter.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by griblets

I misread the OP. I agree that there can be no airborne shooter if he leaves the floor without the ball.

I don't mean to hijack the thread with the following question, but would it change your ruling if A1 was stripped by B1 after becoming airborne, subsequently to have his legs taken out from under him while still airborne by B2 who is diving for the loose ball? That's what the play I was making the argument for A1 being an airborne shooter.

I misread the OP in the same way.

But I don't think it changes the ruling. Once the ball is out of his hands the try has ended and the ensuing foul is common regardless of the airborne status of the player. They are going after a loose ball and it's essentially the same as if the defender went through the legs of a player trying to catch a pass.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Adam

Not an airborne shooter for two reasons.

First, he left the ball without the ball. Had he released a try before jumping, the answer would be the same.

Second, and most importantly, he never released a try. An airborne shooter must be someone who has either released a try, or still has the ball and is attempting to do so. Your player is simply someone who had the ball stolen who then proceeded to jump into the air.

I think you're right that if A1 is in contact with the floor when he's stripped he can't become an airborne shooter. He ceases to be in the act of shooting once he no longer has the ball and is still touching the floor.

However, if he left the floor before the strip, wouldn't he then be an airborne shooter? Or, is a strip sufficiently different from a block that he hasn't released the ball on a try?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I think you're right that if A1 is in contact with the floor when he's stripped he can't become an airborne shooter. He ceases to be in the act of shooting once he no longer has the ball and is still touching the floor.

However, if he left the floor before the strip, wouldn't he then be an airborne shooter? Or, is a strip sufficiently different from a block that he hasn't released the ball on a try?

It may be a quirk in the rules, but it's clear that an airborne player must be either attempting to release a try or have already released the try in order to be considered an airborne shooter. Even if he had gone airborne prior to having the ball stolen, the fact that he lost the ball prior to releasing a try means he isn't an airborne shooter any longer.

Not any different really, than a shooter who changes his mind and passes the ball.