Maryland at Indiana: Undercut on Rebound? (Video)

[mutantducky]

nice call. very close but it looks like the IU player isn't in a good position and makes a bit of contact. What makes it difficult is the Maryland player doesn't go straight up so it is reasonable to expect an "over the top call here". But I can't penalize the Maryland player for that when there isn't a proper screen-out.

Good video.

[La Rikardo]

Looks to me like the player in black jumped forward into the player in white as the player in white moved backward into the player in black. I would personally go with a common foul on the player in black, but I can't fault the official for going the other way. Technically, I think this should be a double foul, but I can't imagine any official (including myself) would ever actually call it like that.

[mutantducky]

I might let it go as a no-call but I support the foul being called. I just don't see a foul on the Maryland player. I know what you are saying about the double foul and the Maryland player doesn't go straight up but I thought the contact is mainly caused first by the IU player.

[ballgame99]

Ducky, you no call that and you are going to have problems. I think this is a good call, and it looks like black is jumping forward because right as he leaves his feet his knees get taken out from under him. Very tough call to have to make, but it looked like the right one.

[Welpe]

You need a whistle here and a double foul isn't the answer. I have a pushing foul on the Maryland player. He wasn't vertical from the time he went up and stayed that way on the way down.

[JeffM]

I agree that it was an undercut. The contact was significant because the player in white backed into the airborne player in black. The official deserves credit for making the call that was not expected.

[jmwking]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I agree with you on many of those points, but I still would not characterize a common foul call on a rebound play with 7 minutes to go in a 13 point game a great call.

Meh. When does any call count as a great call? Tough standard...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

You need a whistle here and a double foul isn't the answer.

Damn

[MathReferee]

I see contact by the Maryland player first and see him jumping slightly forward creating the first foul. Yogi certainly undercuts him but after he had already been fouled IMO.

[Adam]

My view, the contact from behind is incidental. The undercut, however, is not.

[griblets]

C had a much better angle than we do in the video. He saw the whole play, while we're guessing a bit. I believe the reason that black "jumped forward" is because white backs under him just as black jumps, taking his legs out from under him. The reason I consider it a "great" call is because C wasn't fooled into calling the foul that everyone expected him to call. Instead, he made the correct call.

[deecee]

This is a foul on white all the way. If you think the contact by black is a foul in this case you are expecting to much from any player on rebounding action. Yes contact occurs, but black essentially jumps up and any appearance that he is jumping forward, into white and displacing him, is coming from the fact that white is moving back and undercutting him.

This is a great call because its one officials get wrong very often. To often we penalize the player on the back side simply because he out-jumped, or out positioned the player on the front. Simply being in-between a player and the basket on rebounding action is not the only criteria needed when adjudicating rebounding action.

[Raymond]

First time watching this on a full-screen.

Now that I have a better view, I see the Maryland player using his right arm to push Indiana player prior to jumping. When Maryland player is airborne, Indiana player does back up some.

So in the philosophy of "get the first foul", I still have a foul on the Maryland player.

But in real speed, this is a 50/50 play and I'm definitely not going to criticize the call made on the court.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by badnewsref

i see the maryland player using his right arm to push indiana player prior to jumping. When maryland player is airborne, indiana player does back up some.

So in the philosophy of "get the first foul", i still have a foul on the maryland player.

+1