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JRutledge Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:46pm

Maryland at Indiana: Undercut on Rebound? (Video)
 
6:50 in the second half, Indiana player appears to undercut the Maryland player.

Replay is not very good, so it might require slow down from the first angle.

Peace

AremRed Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 951742)
6:50 in the second half, Indiana player appears to undercut the Maryland player.

Replay is not very good, so it might require slow down from the first angle.

I saw it, thought it was a good call. Yogi kept backing up as the Maryland player jumped straight up. Made Crean look like his family just got murdered.

jeschmit Fri Jan 23, 2015 01:09am

If I only had better video software to show this play...

JRutledge Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:55am

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Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 951756)
If I only had better video software to show this play...

IKR

Peace

Raymond Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 951756)
If I only had better video software to show this play...

Maybe APG needs to step in. :)

JRutledge Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:25am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 951787)
Maybe APG needs to step in. :)

Him or Jet? ;)

Peace

APG Fri Jan 23, 2015 02:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 951781)
IKR

Peace

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 951787)
Maybe APG needs to step in. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 951788)
Him or Jet? ;)

Peace

Don't y'all knock my man jeschmit! :D

Here's the play:

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crosscountry55 Fri Jan 23, 2015 02:24pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 951743)
I saw it, thought it was a good call. Yogi kept backing up as the Maryland player jumped straight up. Made Crean look like his family just got murdered.

I respectfully disagree. MD player's arms were moving quite forward and brought the rest of his body with him. Meanwhile I thought the IN player got to the spot first and was entitled to it. Didn't see him backing down too much, certainly not enough that we'd call a displacement foul under normal circumstances.

Close call but I would have gone with a MD pushing foul.

tlavan Fri Jan 23, 2015 02:25pm

I see the Maryland rebounder going up, towards the basket a bit and creating the contact on the rebound. I see the Indiana kid get landed on and cant help but bend over like he did and probably moved backwards from being off balance and the size of what was on his back. I do NOT have an undercut on the rebound FROM THIS ANGLE.

Rich Fri Jan 23, 2015 02:27pm

Neither player is blameless on this one. Tough call, and no matter which is chosen, the other coach will not be happy.

JRutledge Fri Jan 23, 2015 02:50pm

I am not penalizing the bigger player just because he is bigger. I thought not only was it a good call, it was a great call and I feel the official saw the entire play.

Peace

johnny d Fri Jan 23, 2015 03:03pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 951845)
I am not penalizing the bigger player just because he is bigger. I thought not only was it a good call, it was a great call and I feel the official saw the entire play.

Peace

A great call, let's not get carried away with hyperbole.

JRutledge Fri Jan 23, 2015 03:08pm

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 951846)
A great call, let's not get carried away with hyperbole.

It is a great call because most would have seen the end result and penalized the bigger player because he was on top of the player inside. Heck how many times do we hear someone say "over the back" or "He had inside position." Heck the announcers said that live. And look at the reaction of the players. And I had to see replay just to determine what happened. It was subtle but it was the right call.

Peace

johnny d Fri Jan 23, 2015 03:12pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 951848)
It is a great call because most would have seen the end result and penalized the bigger player because he was on top of the player inside. Heck how many times do we hear someone say "over the back" or "He had inside position." Heck the announcers said that live. And look at the reaction of the players. And I had to see replay just to determine what happened. It was subtle but it was the right call.

Peace

I agree with you on many of those points, but I still would not characterize a common foul call on a rebound play with 7 minutes to go in a 13 point game a great call.

JRutledge Fri Jan 23, 2015 03:16pm

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 951849)
I agree with you on many of those points, but I still would not characterize a common foul call on a rebound play with 7 minutes to go in a 13 point game a great call.

I am not focusing on the game situation. I am focusing on the action. I just think if it was the first minute of the game or the last minute of the game, many officials would have made the call against the Maryland player, not the Indiana player. And I can say that looking at the plays the NCAA puts out and how often the first contact is often ignored.

Peace


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