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Old Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:16pm
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Having a hard time visioning just based on the angle...but anyway. Not sure what he would have thought the violation was. If it hit the backside of the backboard then yes but why would the rim be a violation?
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Old Mon Jan 19, 2015, 05:00pm
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Having a hard time visioning just based on the angle...but anyway. Not sure what he would have thought the violation was. If it hit the backside of the backboard then yes but why would the rim be a violation?
Me too. But someone mentioned it was a 5th grade game, so it could have been in a very small gym where there isn't the normal 4ft behind the plane of the front face of the backboard. That would make this more plausible.
Backside or support apparatus, or if the ball goes over a rectangular backboard = OOB violation. The bottom of the backboard and the flange/rim are inbounds, so no violation.
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Old Tue Jan 20, 2015, 11:56am
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If the ball were to get wedged between the rim and backboard on a throw in would that be a held ball or a throw in violation?
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Old Tue Jan 20, 2015, 12:10pm
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If the ball were to get wedged between the rim and backboard on a throw in would that be a held ball or a throw in violation?
violation.
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Old Tue Jan 20, 2015, 12:12pm
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Me too. But someone mentioned it was a 5th grade game, so it could have been in a very small gym where there isn't the normal 4ft behind the plane of the front face of the backboard. That would make this more plausible.
Backside or support apparatus, or if the ball goes over a rectangular backboard = OOB violation. The bottom of the backboard and the flange/rim are inbounds, so no violation.
is there a rule that allows a try before the ball goes inbound?
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Old Tue Jan 20, 2015, 12:16pm
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is there a rule that allows a try before the ball goes inbound?

Is this a joke?
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Old Tue Jan 20, 2015, 12:56pm
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is there a rule that allows a try before the ball goes inbound?
I'll be nicer.

No, there is not. You can make a throw-in pass toward the basket, but it has to touch a player first. So can you alley-oop off a throw-in? Sure! But if you score directly, lodge the ball, or cause it to come to rest on the flange, it's a throw-in violation.

The initial touching of the throw-in can coincide with basket interference (I believe we had this discussion recently in another thread).
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Old Tue Jan 20, 2015, 02:18pm
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I'll be nicer.

No, there is not. You can make a throw-in pass toward the basket, but it has to touch a player first. So can you alley-oop off a throw-in? Sure! But if you score directly, lodge the ball, or cause it to come to rest on the flange, it's a throw-in violation.

The initial touching of the throw-in can coincide with basket interference (I believe we had this discussion recently in another thread).
What's the definition of a try?
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Old Tue Jan 20, 2015, 02:42pm
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Old Tue Jan 20, 2015, 03:35pm
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Yoda is incorrect. A try is an event that may occur as explicitly defined in NFHS 4-41-2 and NCAA 5-1.1.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:17am
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i'm asking if the rules allows a try directly from an inbounding. not whether i enters the rim or not.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 07:23am
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I'm asking if the rules allows a try directly from an inbounding. not whether i enters the rim or not.
Goaltending can't be called on a throwin, thus, no try.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 08:38am
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i'm asking if the rules allows a try directly from an inbounding. not whether i enters the rim or not.
Do you have a rule book (serious question)? See 5-1-1 (FED)
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 09:55am
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i'm asking if the rules allows a try directly from an inbounding. not whether i enters the rim or not.
think about the question you just asked. now find a rule book online somewhere and get the definition of try and what constitutes a legal throw in. I also can say there is no where in the rulebook that mind reading is taught.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:42am
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i'm asking if the rules allows a try directly from an inbounding. not whether i enters the rim or not.
Check out the definition of a try in 4-41-2 and the definition of a goal in 5-1-1 and you tell me.
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