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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 01:17am
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Five on the court, one is injured

Earlier today, V team brings six players. One fouls out.

Fourth quarter: While V-3 is holding the ball, V-14 rolls her ankle and goes down. I stop play and beckon the coach. Coach V is hesitant to come out, admitting that she didn't want to lose V-14 if she came out (not that it mattered, as already beckoned her).

My veteran partner tells the coach V-14 can come back in if she takes a time out. Coach V agrees.

During the time out, I discuss with my partner that I'm not sure a time out was necessary, since the team only had five players available. He points out that V-14 needed the time out to recover, anyway. It was a very wise point.

Setting the point aside, though, let's see V-14 wanted to play right away, even after a coach beckon with only five available players. V-14 would not have to sit a tick, correct?
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 01:54am
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Earlier today, V team brings six players. One fouls out.

Fourth quarter: While V-3 is holding the ball, V-14 rolls her ankle and goes down. I stop play and beckon the coach. Coach V is hesitant to come out, admitting that she didn't want to lose V-14 if she came out (not that it mattered, as already beckoned her).

My veteran partner tells the coach V-14 can come back in if she takes a time out. Coach V agrees.

During the time out, I discuss with my partner that I'm not sure a time out was necessary, since the team only had five players available. He points out that V-14 needed the time out to recover, anyway. It was a very wise point.

Setting the point aside, though, let's see V-14 wanted to play right away, even after a coach beckon with only five available players. V-14 would not have to sit a tick, correct?
If not for the charged time-out, V-14 would have to sit until the clock is properly started following her being directed to leave the game. 3-3-6 indicates that "a player who is injured to the extent that the coach or any other bench personnel is beckoned and comes onto the court shall be directed to leave the game, unless a time-out is requested by, and granted to his/her team..." If that doesn't convince you fully, then look at 3-3-4, which confirms that the "sit a tick" requirement applies not only to players who have been replaced, but also to those who have been directed to leave the game.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:03am
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Rule 3.1.1 Note:

"A team must begin the game with five players, but if it has no substitutes to replace disqualified or injured players, it must continue with fewer than five..."

This may be specific to the start of the game, but I think the point still remains that the team must continue with less than five if it has no substitutes available.

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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:16am
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I would allow it as I use my 2-3 powers to determine playing with 5 is more important than making a player sit out due to "sit a tick".
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:21am
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See NFHS Casebook Play 8.2 Situation B.

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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:24am
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See NFHS Casebook Play 8.2 Situation B.
8.2 SITUATION B:

A1 is fouled and will be shooting two free throws. After A1's first free-throw attempt, B6 (Team B's only remaining eligible substitute) replaces B2. A1's second free-throw attempt is unsuccessful. During rebounding action for A1's missed second free-throw attempt, and before the clock starts, A1 pushes B3 in the back causing B3 to roll an ankle. Team B is in the bonus. B3 is unable to immediately continue playing. Team B requests and is granted a time out in order to allow B3 to recover from the ankle injury so as to remain in the game. B3 is still not able to play after the time out has ended.

RULING: B2 may return to the game and replace B3 and shoot B3's free throw attempts despite having been replaced since he/she is the only available substitute. (3-3-4)
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:52am
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See NFHS Casebook Play 8.2 Situation B.

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Full disclosure: MTD personally wrote that Case Book play. In my opinion, it is misguided.
The older NFHS interp about a player having an asthma attack and temporarily playing with four is the proper way to handle it, unless a time-out is taken.

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