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niceofficial Sun Jan 11, 2015 08:00pm
Traveling Violation
 
Player A1 has control of the ball with both feet on the floor. No pivot foot as been established. While swinging the ball to avoid the defense, player A1 looses his balance and falls toward the floor. A1 cradles the ball in one arm and puts his off hand on the floor to prevent falling over. Is this a violation?


Thanks.

BillyMac Sun Jan 11, 2015 08:11pm
Hand On Floor ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by niceofficial (Post 949771)
Player A1 has control of the ball with both feet on the floor. No pivot foot as been established ... player A1 looses his balance and falls toward the floor. A1 cradles the ball in one arm and puts his off hand on the floor to prevent falling over. Is this a violation?
No.

4-44-5: A player holding the ball: a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.

Freddy Tue Jan 13, 2015 03:03pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 949773)
No.

4-44-5: A player holding the ball: a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.
...or ball. 4.15 COMMENT

BigCat Tue Jan 13, 2015 03:08pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 950129)
...or ball. 4.15 COMMENT
basketball:)

just another ref Tue Jan 13, 2015 03:08pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 949773)
No.

4-44-5: A player holding the ball: a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 950129)
...or ball. 4.15 COMMENT

How are these two things related?

Rob1968 Tue Jan 13, 2015 04:32pm
Anatomy lesson . . .
 
Altho' the hand is sometimes considered "part of the ball - basketball -", the ball - basketball - is never considered part of the body . . .:D

Freddy Tue Jan 13, 2015 04:38pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 950133)
How are these two things related?
Rules meeting last night needed that clarification. Many think that the hand can touch but not the ball held in the hands.

Rob1968 Tue Jan 13, 2015 04:45pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 950153)
Rules meeting last night needed that clarification. Many think that the hand can touch but not the ball held in the hands.
Wow, and I thought that Mark and I were old! Way back in the 60's, when I played HS, to touch the floor with the ball was considered to be a dribble. So, if the ballhandler ended his dribble, and then while holding the ball, touched the ball to the floor, it was a double dribble. Or, if the ballhandler held the ball and touched the ball to the floor twice, you guessed it, that was considered to be a double dribble. Or, if the ballhandler touched the floor with the ball, and then started a conventional dribble, that was also a violation.
So, in your meeting, you must have had some very old officials, who don't read . . .:(

BillyMac Tue Jan 13, 2015 05:05pm
Touches Ball To Floor ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 950129)
...or ball. 4.15 COMMENT
4.15 COMMENT: It is not possible for a player to travel during a dribble. A player
is not dribbling while slapping the ball during a jump, when a pass rebounds
from his/her hand, when he/she fumbles, or when he/she bats a rebound or pass
away from other players who are attempting to get it. The player is not in control
under these conditions. It is a dribble when a player stands still and bounces the
ball. It is not a dribble when a player stands still and holds the ball and touches
it to the floor once or more than once.


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