Book Situation

[Rich]

There's no reason for teams not to list extra players. At least that's what I thought.

But I've come to appreciate another side of this now that I'm also an administrator. We have a quarter limit here -- 4 quarters per day unless a school has a 5th (or 6th) quarter waiver. No eligibility - coach doesn't put the person in the book. That way if he forgets and runs the kid to the table, there should be someone telling him that he made a mistake.

I still verify when there are fewer number than kids warming up and this is invariably the answer I get.

Originally Posted by Rich

But I've come to appreciate another side of this now that I'm also an administrator. We have a quarter limit here -- 4 quarters per day unless a school has a 5th (or 6th) quarter waiver. No eligibility - coach doesn't put the person in the book. That way if he forgets and runs the kid to the table, there should be someone telling him that he made a mistake.

My state has a quarter rule as well and we ran into this problem the other night. 5th foul on a player, coach wanted to sub a player whose quarters were used up. He ended up asking my partner if that was ok and my two partners had to get together to discuss. Not much to discuss, it's not our job to track or enforce the quarter rule. That is up to the AD and state office.

Also had a coach want to add a JV player to the roster around 6 minutes. My R went over and asked the coach if the player was going to play; the coach said probably not. The R then told the coach to wait to add the player if he is going to actually play. We had a close game and the kid never played, so no T. Seemed smart to do it that way.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Also had a coach want to add a JV player to the roster around 6 minutes. My R went over and asked the coach if the player was going to play; the coach said probably not. The R then told the coach to wait to add the player if he is going to actually play. We had a close game and the kid never played, so no T. Seemed smart to do it that way.

Agreed, I've had this happen too. The only way the kid is getting in is if it is not a close game, so why take a T off the bat if you might not need it anyways?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

That way if he forgets and runs the kid to the table, there should be someone telling him that he made a mistake.

Wow. You really trust your table crew. I wouldn't take this chance. If the table crew initially misses it, and later catches it, the other team will be shooting free throws, and the kid still played his extra period.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

There's no reason for teams not to list extra players.

How about a reason from our stupid friends at IAABO (Wait? Did I say that out loud?).

IAABO Refresher Exam 2005: Question 73. Squad member #45 missed the bus and is not present at the time the squad list and starting lineup must be submitted for team members. During the pregame warmup, the referee counts eleven team members of team A but while checking the book team A has twelve team members listed. Referee informs the coach that the squad member who is not present may not be placed in the book even if he/she will get to the game late. Is the referee correct? Answer: Yes Rule Citation: Rule 3, Section 2, Article 1; Rule 4, Section 34, Article 4.

Please note that this is an IAABO exam question, not a NFHS exam question. IAABO exam questions are supposed to be based on NFHS rules, key phrase, "supposed to".

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