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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 10:54am
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I don't think this is that difficult. It says "Tights that extend below the knee are now legal."

So if he garment worn extends below the knee, then it would be tights and subject to the restrictions for arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves and tights (black, white, beige or the predominant color of the uniform and same for teamates)

If the garment worn doesn't extend below the knee, then it is not legal as tights (call it whatever you want). But the garment worn could be legal as compression shorts if it is the predominant color of the uniform and does not extend below the pants.
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2015, 07:16am
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Thigh Sleeve ???

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If the garment worn doesn't extend below the knee, then it is not legal as tights (call it whatever you want). But the garment worn could be legal as compression shorts if it is the predominant color of the uniform and does not extend below the pants.
The statement, "Tights that extend below the knee are now legal", doesn't define tights, it just specifies that something that was once illegal, is now legal.

So a thigh sleeve (not shorts) isn't a sleeve? I thought that anything worn on the leg (except a brace with hinges, straps) is a sleeve?

All I'm saying is that the new fashion rules need some work.
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The statement, "Tights that extend below the knee are now legal", doesn't define tights, it just specifies that something that was once illegal, is now legal.

So a thigh sleeve (not shorts) isn't a sleeve? I thought that anything worn on the leg (except a brace with hinges, straps) is a sleeve?

All I'm saying is that the new fashion rules need some work.

After reading this thread, the first thing I want to do after breakfast is to go on NetFlix and watch Mel Brook's Men in Tights, .

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Old Thu Jan 08, 2015, 10:44am
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Did this really morph into it's own thread?
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2015, 05:34pm
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Did this really morph into it's own thread?
Because just another ref asked politely.

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Take it to another thread please, Billy.
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2015, 08:08pm
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It really does not matter what you call them. If you are wearing something from the waist that is under you shorts/skit that extends below the knee, then they cannot be worn or cannot be shown.

If it is something they can take off without removing their shorts or pants, then they can wear them, but they must follow the color restrictions.

BTW, this was clarified by our head person the other day as I was having a similar disagreement with a fellow official.

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Old Fri Jan 09, 2015, 01:07pm
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It really does not matter what you call them. If you are wearing something from the waist that is under you shorts/skit that extends below the knee, then they cannot be worn or cannot be shown.

If it is something they can take off without removing their shorts or pants, then they can wear them, but they must follow the color restrictions.

BTW, this was clarified by our head person the other day as I was having a similar disagreement with a fellow official.

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Old Fri Jan 09, 2015, 06:17pm
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Robin Hood: Men in Tights (Mel Brooks, 1993) ...

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It really does not matter what you call them. If you are wearing something from the waist that is under you shorts/skit that extends below the knee, then they cannot be worn or cannot be shown ... this was clarified by our head person the other day as I was having a similar disagreement with a fellow official.
What? Your "head person" is sadly mistaken. This was a major rule change this year. How could he miss it? Was he out of the country, or in the hospital in a coma? I certainly hope that you set him straight. Is the college rule different, and, if so, could he have confused the college rule with the high school rule?

2014-15 NFHS BASKETBALL RULES CHANGES

3-5-3
Art. 3: Arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves and tights are permissible:
a. Anything worn on the arm and/or leg is a sleeve, except a knee brace, and shall meet the color restrictions.
b. The sleeves/tights shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the uniform and the same color sleeves/tights shall be worn by teammates.
c. All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color.
d. Meet the logo requirements in 3-6.
Note: In general, a brace is defined as anything that contains hinges and/or straps or an opening over the knee cap.
Rationale: To clarify the rule and give better guidance to what is acceptable.

The committee expanded Rule 3-5-3 by identifying anything worn on the arm and/or leg as a sleeve, except a knee brace. These items, including tights, will now be permitted but must meet the color and logo restrictions in Rule 3-5-3. Previously, this rule permitted only arm sleeves and leg-compression sleeves.

Tights (noun, plural): A snug stretchable garment covering the body from the waist down, designed for general wear by women and girls.

Tights (noun, plural): A piece of clothing that is worn especially by girls, women, and dancers, that fits closely over the feet, legs, and waist, and that is made of a thicker material than pantyhose.

If JRutledge's "head person" confused this issue, then it's pretty obvious to me (what I've been saying all along) that the new fashion rules need some work.
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