Running the end line

[Nevadaref]

Some teams are better coached than others.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Some teams are better coached than others.

Exactly. You see this more on TV than in high school for that exact reason.

Of course, it can backfire. Key moment during an NCAA tournament game last year (can't remember which one), coming out of a media timeout with a backcourt throw-in and defensive pressure, the thrower forgot it was a spot throw-in and violated. Oops.

Best part was the official who hesitated before he realized what had just happened. His body language was like, "hey, wait a minute, was there a made bask......nope, no there wasn't [insert belated staccato whistle here]!"

[La Rikardo]

I always inform players they can run the end line when I'm handing them the ball on such a throw-in. I think I see players actually run only once or twice a year. Since I do a greater share of low-level games than other forum contributors, I also see players try to run the end line on a designated-spot throw-in on a pretty frequent basis. This year, I've yet to see a player run the end line on a throw-in where they can do that. By contrast, I've had a violation for leaving the designated spot twice this year.

[JRutledge]

On the endline I always tell them what they can do either way. It certainly does not mean they know the rules or know what the rules entail.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

I always inform players they can run the end line when I'm handing them the ball on such a throw-in.

IAABO mechanics require us to tell, and signal, both when the player can, and can't, run the endline on all backcourt endline throwins.

I suggest that rookie officials be careful regarding exactly what they say:

Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game

"Don't move”, said to an inbounding player, by an official, before a designated spot throw-in, is another statement that should probably go unsaid. According to the rules, that player can move laterally within a three foot wide area, can jump up, and can move as far back as time, and space, will allow. Better statement: “Designated spot”, while pointing to the spot.

[La Rikardo]

I usually tell the thrower when the throw-in is a designated spot throw, but I should be doing it more. When I do, I typically say "on the spot".

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

I usually tell the thrower when the throw-in is a designated spot throw, but I should be doing it more. When I do, I typically say "on the spot".

Sometimes I say this on the sideline but the only time you really should do it is for backcourt endline throw-ins. Every other location is a spot throw regardless. I say "spot throw" versus "you can run" on any endline throw-in however, just as preventative officiating.

[Nevadaref]

I've used the following:
1. "Hold your spot."
2. "Stay in this spot."
3. "You have the whole endline."
4. "You may run."

What I will not say is, "Don't run" or "You can't run" as I've found that these can easily be misheard and cause a player to violate.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

IAABO mechanics require us to tell, and signal, both when the player can, and can't, run the endline on all backcourt endline throwins.

I suggest that rookie officials be careful regarding exactly what they say:

Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game

"Don't move”, said to an inbounding player, by an official, before a designated spot throw-in, is another statement that should probably go unsaid. According to the rules, that player can move laterally within a three foot wide area, can jump up, and can move as far back as time, and space, will allow. Better statement: “Designated spot”, while pointing to the spot.

"You can run", "Spot". Those 2 phrases clearly convey what the thrower-in can do, and neither has ever caused confusion in any game I've worked.

Question: Doesn't the book also say that you should notify the defense?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

"You can run", "Spot". Those 2 phrases clearly convey what the thrower-in can do, and neither has ever caused confusion in any game I've worked.

Question: Doesn't the book also say that you should notify the defense?

I tell the inbounder, and then give a signal for all to see (including the videotape)

[Eastshire]

"Just this spot" while pointing to the floor or "You have the whole end line" while gesturing back and forth along the end line.

I can't remember the last time I've had someone move from where they started either legally or illegally.

Even rarer is the OOB pass to another thrower. I've seen it maybe twice.

[Kansas Ref]

I have observed that the privilege of "running the endline" is grossly under-utilized by players. Players are so conditioned to the spot throw-in that they dare not venture to do otherwise for fear of causing a turnover.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I tell the inbounder, and then give a signal for all to see (including the videotape)

What? Do you mean to say that some of our games are videotaped?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

"You can run", "Spot". Those 2 phrases clearly convey what the thrower-in can do, and neither has ever caused confusion in any game I've worked.

Question: Doesn't the book also say that you should notify the defense?

I have never had a problem or confusion with saying "Don't move." If a player is too stupid to know what that means, then they have bigger problems. They realize there are only two options. Even if you say "Spot" that does not take away from the kind of crying that goes on for a travel if they move a foot one way or the other.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

"Don't move."

I agree that saying "Don't move" might not, and probably, will not, lead to any problems, but why say something that isn't true (it's positively, absolutely, not true), and perpetuates a myth?