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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 01:31pm
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"New Switch" Progress Report

OK, so we're about 1/4-1/3 the way through the season. What's going on in your area regarding the "new switch" mechanic the Fed issued to us last year?

Are you doing it?
Did your state ignore it?
Did it devolve to where it's up to each crew?
Is it working well as you've adopted it?

How 'bout a progress report from your "Rome"?
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 02:05pm
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What switching mechanic? You mean the one from last year?

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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 02:07pm
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I can't speak for others in my association, but I absolutely hate it. What since does it make for a lead to call a foul going the other way, report it, then have to run all the way down the court and become the new lead? It makes no sense to me. I know many others around my area feel the same way.

However, at most varsity level games I've seen so far, the officials do use the "new switch", probably because they are afraid of getting post season taken away if they don't.

As far as non-varsity and below, some do, some don't. I'm easygoing, I let my partner dictate most of the time. If he wants to long switch on fouls going the other way, we will. If he doesn't, that's fine with me
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 02:10pm
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South Carolina does not care. The crew decides in pregame whether or not it wants to do the long switches.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 04:50pm
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I can't speak for others in my association, but I absolutely hate it. What since does it make for a lead to call a foul going the other way, report it, then have to run all the way down the court and become the new lead? It makes no sense to me. I know many others around my area feel the same way.

However, at most varsity level games I've seen so far, the officials do use the "new switch", probably because they are afraid of getting post season taken away if they don't.

As far as non-varsity and below, some do, some don't. I'm easygoing, I let my partner dictate most of the time. If he wants to long switch on fouls going the other way, we will. If he doesn't, that's fine with me
That probably adds another 7 steps to the process... you really think that's a big deal
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:02pm
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We did the long switch last year until too many officials complained that no one knew how to do it. We had meetings and power points and multiple officials trying to describe how they thought it worked; all for naught. Our state director of officials person sent out an email mid-season saying we could do it either way.

After no communication prior to the season if we were gonna try it again or abandon the long switch entirely we got an email last week: the long switch is back on.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:06pm
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We did the long switch last year until too many officials complained that no one knew how to do it. We had meetings and power points and multiple officials trying to describe how they thought it worked; all for naught.
We tried the "no long switch", here in my little corner of Connecticut, a few years ago. No long switch in the backcourt when there is no change of possession. Team A is not in the bonus. A1, dribbling in his back court, is fouled by B1. No change of possession. Team A had possession, and Team A will retain possession after the penalty for the foul is charged (no one and one). Trail (remember, two person Connecticut), reports the foul, and goes back to the trail position. Lead does not initiate a switch, and stays put.

Sounds simple. Right? Wrong. We had guys "no long switching" on player control fouls (charges), and on rebounding fouls. Some officials were lazy, and others just didn't get it.

Now we (again) switch on every single foul, that's right, every single foul; long switches, short switches, medium switches, big, and tall switches, shooting fouls, nonshooting fouls, shoot the breeze fouls, shoot the messenger fouls, they shoot horses, don't they, fouls, etc. You name it, we switch it.
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Old Wed Dec 24, 2014, 02:37am
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I assume we're talking about 3-person only here since it was the only thing that changed last year.

I looked at the manual for 2013-2014, but I couldn't figure it out for sure: Was the new switch last year only for when the Lead calls a foul that causes a change of posession? (PC foul, illegal screen, rebounding foul)

I'm pretty sure you never switch in the frontcourt going to the backcourt when the Center or Trail call a foul (Illegal screen for example), or in transition going backcourt to frontcourt (Hand check by the pressing team) when the Center or Trail call a foul. Do I have that right?
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:01pm
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No long switch in Texas. In two man, we only switch on shooting fouls (with some exeptions) & in three man we don't switch on non-shooting fouls in the backcourt.
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:38pm
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In two man, we only switch on shooting fouls (with some exeptions)
More precisely, we only switch when the lead calls a shooting foul.
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