Traveling?

[Sunnyboy]

player dribbles on the baseline and starts to make a pass to teammate setting up for a three point attempt on far side. Pivot foot is lifted and player realizes pass will be intercepted. He pulls ball back to chest, keeps his pivot off the floor, holds the ball for two seconds and calls a timeout.
Is this a travel? What if he adjusted and made a pass to top of key. Assume foot on floor does not move. This was real play my crew has debated for a week now.

Originally Posted by Sunnyboy

player dribbles on the baseline and starts to make a pass to teammate setting up for a three point attempt on far side. Pivot foot is lifted and player realizes pass will be intercepted. He pulls ball back to chest, keeps his pivot off the floor, holds the ball for two seconds and calls a timeout.
Is this a travel? What if he adjusted and made a pass to top of key. Assume foot on floor does not move. This was real play my crew has debated for a week now.

Not a travel until he begins to dribble or returns pivot to floor before shooting or passing, thus you should grant the timeout.

[Scratch85]

5-8-3a

Sounds like a legal timeout.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sunnyboy

This was real play my crew has debated for a week now.

Why did it take so long? (I mean that sincerely -- I'm interested in the process)

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why did it take so long? (I mean that sincerely -- I'm interested in the process)

They've been corresponding via USPS.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by Sunnyboy

player dribbles on the baseline and starts to make a pass to teammate setting up for a three point attempt on far side. Pivot foot is lifted and player realizes pass will be intercepted. He pulls ball back to chest, keeps his pivot off the floor, holds the ball for two seconds and calls a timeout.
Is this a travel? What if he adjusted and made a pass to top of key. Assume foot on floor does not move. This was real play my crew has debated for a week now.

Just noticed this was your first post. Welcome to the forum.

bob really is sincere. "Always listen to bob."

[Sharpshooternes]

Yes. Welcome to the forum. You can stand there all day with your pivot foot in the air and not commit a travel. As others have said, you can pass, shoot or call a time out. What you can't do is start a dribble or put that pivot foot back down. Remember the traveling has everything to do with what the pivot foot does and not how many steps or what looks "funny."

Focus on that pivot foot and you will get a lot more calls correct.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Remember the traveling has everything to do with what the pivot foot does and not how many steps or what looks "funny."

And, except for the start of a dribble part of the travel rule, it is always the foot coming down that creates the travel, not the lifting of the foot.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And, except for the start of a dribble part of the travel rule, it is always the foot coming down that creates the travel, not the lifting of the foot.

Unless you start a dribble with the pivot foot up. This is a travel. The pivot foot need not come back down.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And, except for the start of a dribble part of the travel rule, it is always the foot coming down that creates the travel, not the lifting of the foot.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Unless you start a dribble with the pivot foot up. This is a travel. The pivot foot need not come back down.

I believe that's what he just said.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I believe that's what he just said.

Ok. Was a bit confusing as he worded it. Just wanted to clarify for our new found friend.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sunnyboy

player dribbles on the baseline and starts to make a pass to teammate setting up for a three point attempt on far side. Pivot foot is lifted and player realizes pass will be intercepted. He pulls ball back to chest, keeps his pivot off the floor, holds the ball for two seconds and calls a timeout.
Is this a travel? What if he adjusted and made a pass to top of key. Assume foot on floor does not move. This was real play my crew has debated for a week now.

Why would it be a travel if he didn't put his pivot foot back down?

[Sunnyboy]

(I mean that sincerely -- I'm interested in the process)[/QUOTE]

A decision is still not agreed upon. We all live close, apparently have no real life, so we can beat any dead horse we happen upon. I find myself in the majority here. The rule does not have a time frame on shot or pass. Other says if player holds the ball, they are not in the act of passing or shooting, so a travel should be called.

Thank you all for the input, and welcome.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Sunnyboy

Other says if player holds the ball, they are not in the act of passing or shooting, so a travel should be called.

Passing or shooting remains to be seen. More importantly, though:

Pivot foot up + pivot foot down = travel.

Just remember this.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Sunnyboy

(I mean that sincerely -- I'm interested in the process)

Originally Posted by Sunnyboy

A decision is still not agreed upon. We all live close, apparently have no real life, so we can beat any dead horse we happen upon. I find myself in the majority here. The rule does not have a time frame on shot or pass. Other says if player holds the ball, they are not in the act of passing or shooting, so a travel should be called.

Thank you all for the input, and welcome.

Ask those people to provide a rule that states that a player in the act of shooting or passing the ball has any bearing on calling a travel in this situation.