Administrative Technical Restart?

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Was Blue 33 in the game? (if not, and if she hadn't scored / been charged with a foul, there's no T, yet)

What info was given to the table? (if 33 was on the roster given to the table, then there's no T, even if the information wasn't properly transcribed)

(just adding, since the OP was properly answered)

This. If 33 hasn't been in the game it's nothing yet. Also, if 33 had already played in the first period and it wasn't caught, isn't it to late now?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by OKREF

This. If 33 hasn't been in the game it's nothing yet. Also, if 33 had already played in the first period and it wasn't caught, isn't it to late now?

Depends who you ask. The NFHS rules require a record to be kept of all starts and any substitutes who enter. That record is the scorebook. So if the individual has played, then he/she must be entered into the book. That would cause a team technical foul to be assessed.
There was an NFHS play ruling issued a couple of seasons ago stating that once the kid exited the game, the officials wouldn't penalize unless he/she came back in. That seems silly to me and doesn't mesh with the rule. Why should a team be allowed to break the rule without punishment just because the table crew didn't notice. If it is clear that the individual has played, then where's the required record of that?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

... That seems silly to me and doesn't mesh with the rule. Why should a team be allowed to break the rule without punishment just because the table crew didn't notice. If it is clear that the individual has played, then where's the required record of that?

For the same reason a kid with a busted lip after a missed lay-up doesn't get to shoot free throws, sometimes we miss things and can't fix them, even if we have evidence after the fact.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by OKREF

This. If 33 hasn't been in the game it's nothing yet. Also, if 33 had already played in the first period and it wasn't caught, isn't it to late now?

Many administrative infractions can involve the scorebook and rosters. If a team adds a name to the team roster after the ten minute time limit, then a team technical foul is charged. When such a player legally enters the court, the player’s name and uniform number must be entered into the official scorebook. In order to penalize this infraction, the offending team member must be one of the five players currently in the game. In addition, if a team requires the official scorer to change a team member or player’s uniform number in the official scorebook (with exception), after the ten minute time limit, then a team technical foul is charged. If there is no request for change, or if a team member does not become a player, thus avoiding the change, there is no penalty.

Similarly, if a team requires a player to change to a number in the official scorebook after the ten minute time limit, then a team technical foul is charged. A maximum of one team technical foul is charged regardless of the number of players, and substitutes, not wearing the number indicated in the official scorebook. Each player must wear the number indicated in the official scorebook, or change the official scorebook number to that which the player is wearing. Any additional substitutes who become players and require the changing of the number indicated for them in the official scorebook will not result in a penalty, as the one maximum technical has already been charged to the team for this administrative infraction. If there is no request for change, or if the team member does not become a player, thus avoiding the change, there is no penalty.

Three scorebook situations: adding a name to the team roster, changing a name or a number in the official scorebook, and/or having a player change a uniform number, are penalized with a team technical foul when they occur, after the ten minute time limit. These infractions occur when the scorer is advised to add to or change the official scorebook. The foul must be charged when it occurs and enforced when the ball next becomes live. Once the ball becomes live, after such changes have been made to the scorebook, it is too late to penalize.
After the ten minute time limit a team is charged with a maximum of one technical foul regardless of how many infractions of the following are committed: changing a designated starter, adding a name to the team member list, requiring the scorer to change a team member’s or player’s number in the scorebook, requiring a player to change to the number in the scorebook, and/or having identical numbers on team members and/or players. Each player must wear the number indicated in the scorebook, or change the official scorebook number to that the player is wearing. Any additional substitutes who become players and require the changing of the number indicated for them in the official scorebook will not result in a penalty, as the one maximum technical has already been charged to the team for that team’s administrative infraction

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Had 1 this week too-school faxed a roster over without numbers missing a player.coach checked said roster and filled in numbers of girls in the program
forgetting to add said girl before I logged in the roster.She hit a 3-at a timeout I brought over the reporting official and explained everything.