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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 12:08am
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Jump Ball Violation

A1 and B1 jumpers...B1 violates by catching jump ball.. throw in awarded to A and coach states that Team A should get the AP arrow too.

6.4.1 E...Team A gain possession establishes arrow..so Team B gets arrow.

Right application of rule?

P.S. Coach is also a local basketball offical..I hope that she did not know the rule versus trying to bait me into a mistake on purpose by knowing the rule
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 12:12am
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 07:17am
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A1 and B1 jumpers...B1 violates by catching jump ball.. throw in awarded to A ... Team A gain possession establishes arrow..so Team B gets arrow.
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You got it right.
This would be the incorrect interpretation several years ago, which is what sometimes confuses a few older coaches, and "more experienced" officials.

Now stand back, and watch the Forum "light up with this next statement. If the timekeeper starts the game clock in error, then reset the game clock to 8:00. And, get ready for it, ... boom goes the dynamite.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 07:54am
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This would be the incorrect interpretation several years ago, which is what sometimes confuses a few older coaches, and "more experienced" officials....
Don't confuse younger officials with old, outdated rules or interpretations. That's the only dynamite I have.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 08:00am
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Don't confuse younger officials with old, outdated rules or interpretations. That's the only dynamite I have.
Such as being able to enter the FT lane on the shooter's release?
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:01pm
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Don't confuse younger officials with old, outdated rules or interpretations. That's the only dynamite I have.
5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7-C: Neither jumper shall: Catch the jump ball.

I predicted that the dynamite would go boom. Anybody have any better citations? Anybody have any less "confusing" citations?
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:43pm
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5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7-C: Neither jumper shall: Catch the jump ball.

I predicted that the dynamite would go boom. Anybody have any better citations? Anybody have any less "confusing" citations?
I don't really know why you'd need anything else. And you can catch the ball after it's been legally touched -- so having some time run off the clock is possible (and, I'd say, likely).
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:23am
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5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7-C: Neither jumper shall: Catch the jump ball.
Question: A1 and B1 Jumpers..A1 tips the ball and B1 catches ball off A1 tip.

LEGAL?

Last edited by Adam; Tue Jan 27, 2015 at 10:02am. Reason: clean up
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:07pm
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Don't confuse younger officials with old, outdated rules or interpretations.
There's a reason why some believe the ball, and arrow, version. Your confusion can be somebody else's fuller understanding. If one knows the reason (it's the old rule) why some would believe that the team that didn't catch the jump ball would get both the ball, and the arrow, then it may be easier to understand the newer rule.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:42pm
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There's a reason why some believe the ball, and arrow, version. Your confusion can be somebody else's fuller understanding. If one knows the reason (it's the old rule) why some would believe that the team that didn't catch the jump ball would get both the ball, and the arrow, then it may be easier to understand the newer rule.
I disagree that it helps understand the newer rule, but it can help with understanding why a coach might think that, and help in the explanation to the coach.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2014, 12:20am
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A1 and B1 jumpers...B1 violates by catching jump ball.. throw in awarded to A and coach states that Team A should get the AP arrow too.

6.4.1 E...Team A gain possession establishes arrow..so Team B gets arrow.

Right application of rule?

P.S. Coach is also a local basketball offical..I hope that she did not know the rule versus trying to bait me into a mistake on purpose by knowing the rule
Were you paying attention to the BYU/SDSU game?
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