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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 03:01pm
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FED rules. With team A in team control in it's frontcourt, A1 and B1 both grab a pass at the exact same time. A1 has one of his feet in his backcourt. Choose from the following options:

A) jump ball
B) backcourt violation on team A
C) other
D) let your partner make the call
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 03:14pm
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Can Opponents Both Have Player Control At the Same Time ???
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Backcourt violation on team A.
Is this a trick question? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/science/08monty.html#

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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 03:23pm
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Change it around a little... what if A1 had one foot OOB?
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 03:59pm
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Gotta be a violation. Can't be AP.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 04:06pm
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Change it around a little... what if A1 had one foot OOB?
That would be my reasoning.

The officlial(s) must decide which happened first -- the BC violation or the held ball.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 04:50pm
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FED rules. With team A in team control in it's frontcourt, A1 and B1 both grab a pass at the exact same time. A1 has one of his feet in his backcourt. Choose from the following options:

A) jump ball
B) backcourt violation on team A
C) other
D) let your partner make the call
B. Backcourt violation. Holding the ball is a status of the ball over time. Contacting the ball always happens before it is held.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 04:59pm
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Double violation. Treat it the same as a simultaneous double violation on a free throw---> rule 9-1PENALTIES(Section 1) 3. Dead ball and go to the AP.
How is B1 violating?
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 05:13pm
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Double violation. Treat it the same as a simultaneous double violation on a free throw---> rule 9-1PENALTIES(Section 1) 3. Dead ball and go to the AP.
No blue font? No roll eyes smilie? Are you serious? Your citation, Rule 9-1, refers to free throw violations only, not backcourt violations.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 06:58pm
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How is B1 violating?
Upon further consideration, B1 isn't violating. A1 violated as soon as the ball was touched. Camron gave the logical reason why there you can't have a simultaneous held ball with A1's touch. You can only have simultaneous touching by A1 & B1.

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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 10:13pm
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B. Backcourt violation. Holding the ball is a status of the ball over time. Contacting the ball always happens before it is held.
Exaclty. A held ball also becomes such when it prevents undue roughness. Most certainly, A always touches before undue roughness.
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