3 Person Mechanics (Video)

[JRutledge]

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[BigCat]

The stripes on their shirts are just too wide for me.. otherwise...ouch

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BigCat

The stripes on their shirts are just too wide for me.. otherwise...ouch

Those are the shirts we are now required to wear in Virginia. Change for the sake of lining someone's pockets.

As for the play, I guarantee they never discussed it, and that it will happen again.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by BigCat

The stripes on their shirts are just too wide for me.. otherwise...ouch

Luv them babies!!

[Rich]

After wearing wide stripes for HS football this season, I wouldn't be bothered by them for basketball either.

[ballgame99]

Hard to tell with grainy video, but I don't see a fist in the air or a signal at the spot by the lead. He's out of his primary, but there isn't anything going on in his primary and he had a better look than C. Is this a big no no or something? I don't do 3 man.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Hard to tell with grainy video, but I don't see a fist in the air or a signal at the spot by the lead. He's out of his primary, but there isn't anything going on in his primary and he had a better look than C. Is this a big no no or something? I don't do 3 man.

The Lead did have her fist up.

No-no's include:
1) reffing from the middle of the paint
2) putting a whistle on a play that is clearly in someone else's primary
3) calling out of your primary on contact that may not have even been a foul
4) being indecisive as to whether or not to rotate

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

No-no's include: 1) reffing from the middle of the paint

That's what I spotted first.

[SC Official]

Aaaaand the lead finishes the bad sequence by reporting while walking.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

...he had a better look than C.

Disagree. C had the slot on this play.

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Is this a big no no or something? I don't do 3 man.

Secondary Coverage Area (SCA) calls are sometimes necessary, especially as "crew-savers" or when another official has an open look that the primary official doesn't have (cf. "curl plays", where you'd wanna "stay away when they curl away"). However, that condition did not seem to apply in this clip.

It would be interesting to hear the L's justification for two things: Why he didn't rotate to strong side (though even though he didn't, that isn't his play to be looking at once he got across anyway), and why he didn't trust that his C could make the call there if one was warranted.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Freddy

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It would be interesting to hear the L's justification for two things: Why he didn't rotate to strong side, and why he didn't trust that his C could make the call there if one was warranted.

Lack of training/learning. (I know this for a fact)

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Lack of training/learning. (I know this for a fact)

Could also be lack of learning in spite of loyal efforts of those responsible to provide quality training.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Freddy

(though even though he didn't, that isn't his play to be looking at once he got across anyway),

IF L had rotated, then I think the contact happened in L's primary -- especially with no other post players.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

IF L had rotated, then I think the contact happened in L's primary -- especially with no other post players.

I agree. The rotation should've been initiated as soon as that pass went down to that player. That's where a lot of officials have problems with 3-person. They hesitate and that hesitation puts them "too late" to rotate over.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

IF L had rotated, then I think the contact happened in L's primary -- especially with no other post players.

Of course, analyzing what an official did/did not do based on video is easy. Almost too easy. But a point might be made that this play was outside L's PCA had he rotated but that he did have a competitive matchup at the high post on that side he probably should have been surveilling had he rotated.
Then again, I wouldn't want to be considered one who did not agree with Bob.