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Old Tue Oct 28, 2014, 11:59am
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Non-typical / Interesting Calls Made Recently?

Has anyone made any non-typical, un-common, and/or interesting calls recently?

While reffing an adult league game on Saturday, I called a technical foul on a defensive player B1 who reached thru the end line plane and made contact with the ball while A1 was holding it and attempting a throw in under B1's pressure. It was a close game--call made in last 3 minutes of game.

Coach approached me during the FT administration near scorer table, looking quizzical and asked "hey ref, don't we get a warning first, ai'nt the first call a warning?" I replied, " we don't issue warnings for violations, and that type of violation is well-known in the game". He fumed and walked away, accepting the call but was clearly upset/miffed. Fans were equally [and predictably] baffled and became riotous. Any of you made non-typical calls recently that you can describe?

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Old Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:30pm
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Coach approached me during the FT administration near scorer table, looking quizzical and asked "hey ref, don't we get a warning first, ai'nt the first call a warning?" I replied, " we don't issue warnings for violations, and that type of violation is well-known in the game".
But, on a similar play (reaching through without touching) you do get a warning.

So, I would have answered along the lines of "If you reach through and don't touch the ball, you get the warning. But, once you make contact, it's an immediate T."
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2014, 02:30pm
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But, on a similar play (reaching through without touching) you do get a warning.

So, I would have answered along the lines of "If you reach through and don't touch the ball, you get the warning. But, once you make contact, it's an immediate T."
*Point well-taken bobjenkin...you are so "courteous" with the coaches.
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2014, 02:45pm
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Interesting Play

Pre-Season high school league.
Incoming substitute (A6) was walking to the table during a live ball. The ball went bouncing towards the sideline off of B team and A6 touches the live ball. He did not catch the ball "on purpose" but more out of a reaction. B1 had a chance to make a play on the ball before it went out of bounds.
I conferred with my partner and we awarded the ball to the B team for a sidline throw-in.

Things we considered since we did not know the exact rule: intent, advantage gained, bench personnel.

Thoughts??
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2014, 02:51pm
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Pre-Season high school league.
Incoming substitute (A6) was walking to the table during a live ball. The ball went bouncing towards the sideline off of B team and A6 touches the live ball. He did not catch the ball "on purpose" but more out of a reaction. B1 had a chance to make a play on the ball before it went out of bounds.
I conferred with my partner and we awarded the ball to the B team for a sidline throw-in.

Things we considered since we did not know the exact rule: intent, advantage gained, bench personnel.

Thoughts??
Was A6 standing out of bounds? If so, and the ball touches him, the ball is out of bounds at that point. B caused the ball to go OOB, so give A the throw-in.
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2014, 03:06pm
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A6 was out of bounds, but B1 would have been able to save the ball. A6 took away B1's advantage by grabbing the ball right in front of him.
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2014, 04:27pm
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Was A6 standing out of bounds? If so, and the ball touches him, the ball is out of bounds at that point.
Just a reminder, if a player, holding, or dribbling, the ball, accidentally touches A6 (who is standing out of bounds), that is not an out of bounds violation. I believe that the same thing is true if a player, holding, or dribbling, the ball, accidentally touches a coach, a cheerleader, a fan, the police officer in the corner, etc. If said player accidentally touches my seeing eye dog, who is out of bounds, then that's a different story.
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