2014-2015 NFHS test

[just another ref]

Okay, here's the question I missed:

Prior to either team gaining control on a jump ball to start the overtime period, B2 is charged with an intentional personal foul. Ruling: The scorer should set the arrow when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower for the throw-in opposite the table at mid court.


true or false

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Okay, here's the question I missed:

Prior to either team gaining control on a jump ball to start the overtime period, B2 is charged with an intentional personal foul. Ruling: The scorer should set the arrow when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower for the throw-in opposite the table at mid court.


true or false

Not enough information to answer.

IF the nearest spot to the foul is "opposite the table at mid court" then it's true. IF the nearest spot to the foul is other than that, then it's false.

Or, if you think they are asking about the arrow alone (and ignoring any spot issues), it's true.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not enough information to answer.

IF the nearest spot to the foul is "opposite the table at mid court" then it's true. IF the nearest spot to the foul is other than that, then it's false.
Or, if you think they are asking about the arrow alone (and ignoring any spot issues), it's true.

Poorly worded question. I'll go out on a limb and say maybe they are trying to see if officials know that the throw-in spot for an intentional personal foul isn't automaticlly at the division line opposite the table.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

Poorly worded question. I'll go out on a limb and say maybe they are trying to see if officials know that the throw-in spot for an intentional personal foul isn't automaticlly at the division line opposite the table.

Apparently the key to the question was when the arrow is set. I think I've had a variation of this before which stated it was set when the free throw shooter got the ball at his disposal. I take the position that the phrase "at the division line opposite the table" makes the whole thing false. As pointed out above, it shouldn't take a coincidence to make a true statement on a test.

Unfortunately, the "correct" answer was listed as true.

Fortunately, this was the only question I missed, so my rating was not affected. I hope that missing this question didn't affect anyone else's rating.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Apparently the key to the question was when the arrow is set. I think I've had a variation of this before which stated it was set when the free throw shooter got the ball at his disposal....

I took that as the point of the question. If it had been a common foul, the arrow would be set when ball placed at the disposal of the free throw shooter. For an intentional or technical foul (and flagrant?), arrow isn't set until at the disposal of the thrower-in.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I took that as the point of the question. If it had been a common foul, the arrow would be set when ball placed at the disposal of the free throw shooter. For an intentional or technical foul (and flagrant?), arrow isn't set until at the disposal of the thrower-in.

i agree the questions arent clear often. add things to confuse. reading the question itself, it wants to know when the scorer is to set the arrow. if the referee decides to put the ball in play from the dead corner at the opposite end of the court, completely wrong area, the scorer should still set the arrow...

They add the stuff about mid court etc which just confuses etc. and with them it wouldnt surprise me which answer they said was correct....very frustrating....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not enough information to answer.

IF the nearest spot to the foul is "opposite the table at mid court" then it's true. IF the nearest spot to the foul is other than that, then it's false.

Or, if you think they are asking about the arrow alone (and ignoring any spot issues), it's true.

It's false either way. The arrow is set sooner than this.

[Kelvin green]

Bob is right with the rule. Not sure what you meant by the arrow is set sooner than this. By definition...

4-3
“Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set toward the opponent’s basket when:

ART. 1 . . . A player secures control of the ball, as after the jump ball beginning the game and each extra period.

ART. 2 . . . The ball is placed at the disposal of the free thrower after a *common foul when the bonus free throw is in effect.

ART. 3 . . . The ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower after:

a. A violation during or following the jump before a player secures control.

b. The free throws for a noncommon foul.

c. A common foul before the bonus free throw is in effect.”

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[Adam]

Interesting, that's what I get for not double checking the rule.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Okay, here's the question I missed:

Prior to either team gaining control on a jump ball to start the overtime period, B2 is charged with an intentional personal foul. Ruling: The scorer should set the arrow when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower for the throw-in opposite the table at mid court.


true or false

me thinks not enough info to correctly answer

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Okay, here's the question I missed:

Prior to either team gaining control on a jump ball to start the overtime period, B2 is charged with an intentional personal foul. Ruling: The scorer should set the arrow when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower for the throw-in opposite the table at mid court.


true or false

Was this on Part 2? Cause I didn't see it on part 1.