Correctable Error

[billyu2]

Again, IMO, at which basket the FT's are attempted is not such an important issue. My concern is in which quarter are these FT's going to be a part of? If the attempts are going to be recorded as part of the third quarter, this could put the individual and the team at a disadvantage and could affect the outcome of the game. In Ohio, we have a 5 qtr. maximum/day rule. What if A10 plays 3 quarters in the JV game, enters the varsity game just before halftime, and happens to be the player involved in the CE? Assume the coach does not plan to play him in the 3rd quarter but now we are informed of the CE. A10 attempts his merited free throws. If the attempts are recorded as part of the third quarter it would stand to reason that he participated in the quarter and would be charged, through no fault of his own, with his fifth and final quarter. I think it would be wise to have the attempts recorded as part of the second quarter when the error actually occurred. If the officials decide to shoot at the original basket that's fine with me, or if the 3rd quarter already started (Bob's scenario) and the officials say we're going to shoot here- that would be fine as well.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

After much thought, I have decided that A1 should attempt his FTs in Team A's Second Half Basket because the CE was discovered during the Second Half.

MTD, Sr.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Again, IMO, at which basket the FT's are attempted is not such an important issue. My concern is in which quarter are these FT's going to be a part of? If the attempts are going to be recorded as part of the third quarter, this could put the individual and the team at a disadvantage and could affect the outcome of the game. In Ohio, we have a 5 qtr. maximum/day rule. What if A10 plays 3 quarters in the JV game, enters the varsity game just before halftime, and happens to be the player involved in the CE? Assume the coach does not plan to play him in the 3rd quarter but now we are informed of the CE. A10 attempts his merited free throws. If the attempts are recorded as part of the third quarter it would stand to reason that he participated in the quarter and would be charged, through no fault of his own, with his fifth and final quarter. I think it would be wise to have the attempts recorded as part of the second quarter when the error actually occurred. If the officials decide to shoot at the original basket that's fine with me, or if the 3rd quarter already started (Bob's scenario) and the officials say we're going to shoot here- that would be fine as well.

I couldn't care less about how many quarters someone plays. That has no bearing on any decision I would make during a game.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Again, IMO, at which basket the FT's are attempted is not such an important issue. My concern is in which quarter are these FT's going to be a part of? If the attempts are going to be recorded as part of the third quarter, this could put the individual and the team at a disadvantage and could affect the outcome of the game. In Ohio, we have a 5 qtr. maximum/day rule. What if A10 plays 3 quarters in the JV game, enters the varsity game just before halftime, and happens to be the player involved in the CE? Assume the coach does not plan to play him in the 3rd quarter but now we are informed of the CE. A10 attempts his merited free throws. If the attempts are recorded as part of the third quarter it would stand to reason that he participated in the quarter and would be charged, through no fault of his own, with his fifth and final quarter. I think it would be wise to have the attempts recorded as part of the second quarter when the error actually occurred. If the officials decide to shoot at the original basket that's fine with me, or if the 3rd quarter already started (Bob's scenario) and the officials say we're going to shoot here- that would be fine as well.

BillyU2:

I have been an OhioHSAA registered basketball official for 44 years. Do not bother yourself with the number of quarters that a player has played.

The only time we (OhioHSAA officials) are concerned about the number of quarters a player has played is when the Scorer informs us: a) that a player is playing in his 6th quarter or b) a player who has played in 5 quarters has reported to the Scorer to re-enter the game and it will be his 6th quarter of play.

MTD, Sr.

[BryanV21]

I know it doesn't matter where the free throws are attempted, but there has to be a right answer, and I'd rather know the right answer than to shrug my shoulders if I were ever asked.

Call me OCD.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

BillyU2:

I have been an OhioHSAA registered basketball official for 44 years. Do not bother yourself with the number of quarters that a player has played.

The only time we (OhioHSAA officials) are concerned about the number of quarters a player has played is when the Scorer informs us: a) that a player is playing in his 6th quarter or b) a player who has played in 5 quarters has reported to the Scorer to re-enter the game and it will be his 6th quarter of play.

MTD, Sr.

Mark, you missed the point. I said my concern is which quarter will the attempted free throws be a part of. (yes, it could create a concern regarding # of quarters played later) but for right now, which quarter will the free throws be a part of? You and your partners return to the court before intermission is over and the scorer informs you A10 should have received a one and one just before the end of the second quarter. You inform the scorer and the coaches we have a correctable error and that A10 will receive his merited free throws. The scorer asks you- in which quarter do I record the free throws, the 2nd or 3rd? And you say . . .?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

After much thought, I have decided that A1 should attempt his FTs in Team A's Second Half Basket because the CE was discovered during the Second Half.

MTD, Sr.

Originally Posted by billyu2

Mark, you missed the point. I said my concern is which quarter will the attempted free throws be a part of. (yes, it could create a concern regarding # of quarters played later) but for right now, which quarter will the free throws be a part of? You and your partners return to the court before intermission is over and the scorer informs you A10 should have received a one and one just before the end of the second quarter. You inform the scorer and the coaches we have a correctable error and that A10 will receive his merited free throws. The scorer asks you- in which quarter do I record the free throws, the 2nd or 3rd? And you say . . .?

BillyU2:

Read what I said above.

MTD, Sr.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

BillyU2:

Read what I said above.

MTD, Sr.

Mark, I believe you are referring to Bob's scenario where the 3rd period has started when you are informed but the error is still correctable. Please refer to my scenario where you are informed during intermission. Thanks.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Mark, I believe you are referring to Bob's scenario where the 3rd period has started when you are informed but the error is still correctable. Please refer to my scenario where you are informed during intermission. Thanks.

If the CE is discovered during Half Time attempt the FTs at the First Half Basket because the Second Half has not started.

MTD, Sr.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

If the CE is discovered during Half Time attempt the FTs at the First Half Basket because the Second Half has not started.

MTD, Sr.

Perfect.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

If the CE is discovered during Half Time attempt the FTs at the First Half Basket because the Second Half has not started.

MTD, Sr.

If you're actually concerned about the number of quarters someone plays, which isn't any part of the rules we should be concerned with