Shirts with Pre-Printed Flag

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Don't know about your state but mine has a state-wide athletic association which works with its member schools to regulate and administer athletic events (including the state postseason tournaments), establish standards for athlete eligibility, and determine qualifications for contestants, coaches, and officials.

Every official working a game at a member school must wear the current state association path signifying their approval to work that sport.

And how do the participants know that I didn't just borrow the patch, or get a shirt at goodwill that has a patch on it, or I registered 5 years ago to get the patch, but haven't registered since?

Unless the patch is issued every year, then the patch doesn't really show a whole lot more than no patch. (and, we have the same patch requirement here)

[JRutledge]

Anyone can fake anything. I have a few state licenses in my profession and if I knew what I was doing, I could fake a copy of that license. But if you looked me up in a certain database I might not be located as well.

Regardless of if the patch means anything in the bigger picture, it is like many things in life where it is a requirement of the profession. I do not care if we have a patch or not in my state. If it went away I would be OK with that outcome. I just feel the reason we have them is to put one other requirement on those that have fulfilled the requirement. And if you are wearing one, chances are you did something to get it, but like other things in life it is not the final evidence of your licensing.

Peace

[walt]

I have ordered two of the shirts. One with the side panel and one without. It looks sharp new but you can tell it is a printed flag (if that makes sense). I emailed the company and they say their process will protect it from fading no matter how many times it is washed. The Smitty shirts are great.

[LRZ]

FWIW, there was some debate in my chapter about whether the union of the sublimated flag was on the wrong side. Veterans disagreed.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

If one takes the time to look up U.S. law with regard to the U.S. Flag: Athletic uniforms and officiating uniforms do not meet the criteria to wear the Flag on them.

MTD, Sr.

[Altor]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

If one takes the time to look up U.S. law with regard to the U.S. Flag: Athletic uniforms and officiating uniforms do not meet the criteria to wear the Flag on them.

MTD, Sr.

This is why I do not wear flags on any of my clothing. The Stars and Stripes deserve better.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

If one takes the time to look up U.S. law with regard to the U.S. Flag: Athletic uniforms and officiating uniforms do not meet the criteria to wear the Flag on them.

MTD, Sr.

*So, are you implying that it is quasi "slanderous" "illegal" and/or "irreverent" to adorn our Ref shirts with the US flag? I see tons of college refs wearing flags and also there's Catholics leaguse here in our state where the refs wear a flag on left sleeve and what looks like a "flueres-de-lile" logo patch on the other sleeve (i.e., it looks like the N.O. Saints helmet artwork sort of).
Are you saying that all of this is not legit perhaps even sacriligious?

[Altor]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

*So, are you implying that it is quasi "slanderous" "illegal" and/or "irreverent" to adorn our Ref shirts with the US flag?

Slanderous: No
Illegal: Yes*
Irreverent: Perhaps
Not as patriotic as people think it is: Yes

It's like when people let the flag touch the ground or get dirty. Or they hang the flag vertically with the union in the upper right. Or leave the flag out all night without a light on it. Or when Bank of America uses it as part of the corporate logo. As I said, the Stars and Stripes deserve better.

*Illegal in the sense that it goes against the Flag Code, which is Federal law. However, there is no penalty outlined in the Flag Code.

Originally Posted by Altor

It's like when people let the flag touch the ground or get dirty. Or they hang the flag vertically with the union in the upper right. Or leave the flag out all night without a light on it. Or when Bank of America uses it as part of the corporate logo. As I said, the Stars and Stripes deserve better.

*Illegal in the sense that it goes against the Flag Code, which is Federal law. However, there is no penalty outlined in the Flag Code.

While the Flag Code does not recognize a difference between an actual flag versus a facsimile patch or representation of the flag, I personally there is a difference.

As for the legality of the Flag Code, I just think they're more like guidelines.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And how do the participants know that I didn't just borrow the patch, or get a shirt at goodwill that has a patch on it, or I registered 5 years ago to get the patch, but haven't registered since?

Unless the patch is issued every year, then the patch doesn't really show a whole lot more than no patch. (and, we have the same patch requirement here)

New patch every year. Same design but different colors and year number. Guys could wear borrowed patches and maybe no one would know, but our state association found out those officials would be banned.